Originally posted by zopzop
T1 all day.
Namor > Wonderman
CB > non Binary CM
IM > Vision.
I do not agree with namor being above wonderman, wonderman is much more powerful, he is more durable(has survived being put through a planet by hyperion and thrown into the sun)
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3508/thor212az0fa.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/745/thor229cd5qs.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3295/thor235ni5oo.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3689/wondermanvsthor3d6kv7xl.jpg
Here he fights very evenly with thor until mjolnir puts him down, one could even say simon had the edge.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/WBioN.jpg
He has thrashed thor before along with the fact he has beaten abomination.
http://www.marvelmasterworks.com/avengers/images/panel_avg009b.jpg
His fist has been compared to thors hammer.
He has fought evenly with hulk before.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/wondythingstrength1cr.jpg
Much stronger than the thing as shown in this scan.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/4/43640/1425683-avengers_2_legion_cps_022_023.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/4/43640/1425684-avengers_2_legion_cps_024.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/4/43640/1425685-avengers_2_legion_cps_025.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/4/43640/1425686-avengers_2_legion_cps_026.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/4/43640/1425689-avengers_2_legion_cps_027.jpg
Here he takes on the avengers, sending thor flying and tanking a hit from noh-varr.
The only thing namor has an edge on wonderman in is experience, the rest i feel simon has the edge in.
Originally posted by thingy150
I do not agree with namor being above wonderman, wonderman is much more powerful, he is more durable(has survived being put through a planet by hyperion and thrown into the sun)
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3508/thor212az0fa.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/745/thor229cd5qs.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3295/thor235ni5oo.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3689/wondermanvsthor3d6kv7xl.jpg
Here he fights very evenly with thor until mjolnir puts him down, one could even say simon had the edge.
He has thrashed thor before along with the fact he has beaten abomination.
http://www.marvelmasterworks.com/avengers/images/panel_avg009b.jpgHis fist has been compared to thors hammer.
He has fought evenly with hulk before.
Much stronger than the thing as shown in this scan.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/wondythingstrength1cr.jpghttp://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/4/43640/1425683-avengers_2_legion_cps_022_023.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/4/43640/1425684-avengers_2_legion_cps_024.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/4/43640/1425685-avengers_2_legion_cps_025.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/4/43640/1425686-avengers_2_legion_cps_026.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/4/43640/1425689-avengers_2_legion_cps_027.jpg
Here he takes on the avengers, sending thor flying and tanking a hit from noh-varr.
Thor was trying to talk Simon down when Simon sucker punched him in those scans. Thor even warned him to calm down or he'd make him calm down.
"Most of these links don't work, so I have no clue what you are trying to show here."
It is simon fighting evenly with thor, the links work for me, try again.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/123129/2864204-tumblr_mbwtpfiseg1rhxogso1_500.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/123129/2864205-tumblr_mbt2770jpU1qct38do1_1280.jpg
Simon effortlessly beats rulk
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/WestCoastAvengersv2007-20.jpg
Simon crushes ultrons head(which is made of adamantium)
simon is also very fast, he has speed blitzed wolverine on 3 separate occasions:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113083/3289860-7757006270-76523.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78977/3195451-1792885-wondermanwolverine01_super.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113083/3294693-2154813201-32898.jpg
Being able to put your hands on logan whenever you want requires a ton of speed.
"hyperbole" do you have anyway of proving this? I have found that when people cannot dispute something they claim it to be an exaggeration, it is merely a accurate comparison that shows the power simon packs.
You have done literally nothing to prove namor is above simon.
Originally posted by thingy150
"Most of these links don't work, so I have no clue what you are trying to show here."It is simon fighting evenly with thor, the links work for me, try again.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/123129/2864204-tumblr_mbwtpfiseg1rhxogso1_500.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/123129/2864205-tumblr_mbt2770jpU1qct38do1_1280.jpgSimon effortlessly beats rulk
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/WestCoastAvengersv2007-20.jpg
Simon crushes ultrons head(which is made of adamantium)simon is also very fast, he has speed blitzed wolverine on 3 separate occasions:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113083/3289860-7757006270-76523.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78977/3195451-1792885-wondermanwolverine01_super.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113083/3294693-2154813201-32898.jpgBeing able to put your hands on logan whenever you want requires a ton of speed.
"hyperbole" do you have anyway of proving this? I have found that when people cannot dispute something they claim it to be an exaggeration, it is merely a accurate comparison that shows the power simon packs.
You have done literally nothing to prove namor is above simon.
Hercules has crushed Simon, but Namor fought Hercules on even terms. Abomination was beating the crap out of Simon till Simon used high voltage cables to shock him. Namor was going toe to toe vs the Abomination and beat him.
Non Loebforce Rulk jobs..............a lot. He's a shell of his former self.
That's just the fights.
In terms of strength, I already told you, and other forum members can confirm, Namor did something Simon couldn't (despite the fact that Simon had help), he lifted Hydrobase. Namor's strength feats crap all over Simons.
So in terms of fights and feats : Namor > Simon.
Ok so you are basing strength off of literally one feat? Simon has crushed adamantium and fought toe to toe with thor.
Since you are a clear fan of abc logic how about thing wrecked namor and simon wrecked thing, along with the fact luke cage made namor bleed.
Your argument is basically abc logic and nothing else.
A lot of the examples you used of people namor fought have been underwater, namor fought herc underwater, i think they had one other fight but they were really breef stalemates, namor also fought hulk underwater so what does that have to do with this thread.
Wonderman has one shotted wolverine before, namor could not do so in one shot, so by your abc logic standards wonderman>namor.
You have provided zero scans to prove namor is above wonderman in strength yet you are basing this off of literally one showing.
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3508/thor212az0fa.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/745/thor229cd5qs.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3295/thor235ni5oo.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3689/wondermanvsthor3d6kv7xl.jpg
Wonderman was winning against thor before thor used mjolnir
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78977/1857806-thor_one_shots_namor.jpg
Namor got oneshotted by thor's bare hands, as seen in the scans above wonder man takes multiple hits from thors bare hands, so i guess by your logic wonderman is more durable and > namor
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/0/3853/765185-wmstrength.jpg
Here wonderman lifts 50 thousand tons
Originally posted by thingy150
Ok so you are basing strength off of literally one feat? Simon has crushed adamantium and fought toe to toe with thor.Since you are a clear fan of abc logic how about thing wrecked namor and simon wrecked thing, along with the fact luke cage made namor bleed.
Your argument is basically abc logic and nothing else.
A lot of the examples you used of people namor fought have been underwater, namor fought herc underwater, i think they had one other fight but they were really breef stalemates, namor also fought hulk underwater so what does that have to do with this thread.
Wonderman has one shotted wolverine before, namor could not do so in one shot, so by your abc logic standards wonderman>namor.
You have provided zero scans to prove namor is above wonderman in strength yet you are basing this off of literally one showing.
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3508/thor212az0fa.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/745/thor229cd5qs.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3295/thor235ni5oo.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3689/wondermanvsthor3d6kv7xl.jpgWonderman was winning against thor before thor used mjolnir
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78977/1857806-thor_one_shots_namor.jpg
Namor got oneshotted by thor's bare hands, as seen in the scans above wonder man takes multiple hits from thors bare hands, so i guess by your logic wonderman is more durable and > namor
I've already told you when they, Namor and Simon, fought, Namor was beating him despite the fact that Simon had help from Sentry AND Ares. Do you understand? They already faced off on panel and Namor won. Namor's done better vs common opponents too.
Originally posted by thingy150
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/0/3853/765185-wmstrength.jpgHere wonderman lifts 50 thousand tons
Originally posted by thingy150
What is up with you saying things like "other forum members can confirm this" what does this do for you or your argument? There testaments dont help the fact that you have used zero scans to further your argument. All you have is abc logic backed by nothing.
EDIT
Lol, so you admit abc logic is your only argument and you admit you are to lazy to use anything to support your argument.
"wolverine got a sucker shot on namor" after namor got a sucker punch in on wolverine but nice try tho.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/killrave/155J.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/killrave/155K.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/killrave/155L.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/killrave/155M.jpg
Wonderman beat him here, he had a bit of help from whizzer but he still beat him, namor even compared his strength to thor(WHO BEAT NAMOR)
Namor loses again after he basically admitted he was weaker than simon.
Wonder man has this fight, namor admitted he was stronger and by your abc logic standards simon=thor(without mjolnir) thor>namor so i guess by your abc logic that means simons wins. Simon has knocked him out already as shown in the scans above and he is is stronger than namor.
Simon knocks him out again.
Originally posted by carver9
Thor one shot koed a weakened Namor as stated on the next page. Namor fought Wonder man, Ares, and Ironman at the same time and was stomping them. His battle fts are better... he is better overall than Wonder man but I would pay to see than fight.
Prove he is overall better than wonderman
I think they are really even but i do not think either one is clearly above the other, when did namor fight him ares and ironman, scans?
Simon has already beaten him before tho lol
They both have jobbed a sh*t ton over the years, namor being put on his ass by spiderman and being beaten underwater by the thing and simon being hit in the head by ares(it was a rock it literally would have just broke on his head, bad writing)
Originally posted by carver9
Thor one shot koed a weakened Namor as stated on the next page. Namor fought Wonder man, Ares, and Ironman at the same time and was stomping them. His battle fts are better... he is better overall than Wonder man but I would pay to see than fight.
Originally posted by thingy150
Yup, i am trolling because you have done literally nothing to prove namor is > wonder man.Keep telling yourself that.
Abc logic and saying "ask anyone" is not an argument.
The whole forum knows :
Namor was beating the sh|t out of Wonderman despite Wonderman having help from Ares and Sentry.
Namor's actually beaten people like Hulk whereas Simon briefly held his own against Prof Hulk. Namor beat Abomination without plot (ie high voltage electric cable). Namor's gone toe to toe with Hercules until CM stepped in and stopped it. Hercules has beaten the living sh|t out of Simon.
Namor's lifted Hydrobase from the bottom of the Hudson River BY HIMSELF. Wonderman needed help to merely BALANCE Hydrobase on a raised mountain.
Even in that scan where WM 'beat' Namor, you admit he had help from Whizzer.
It's annoying even responding to you because not only do I have to present my case, I even have to correct the errors in your posts.
Like when you said Simon crushed Adamantium Ultron's head. It never happened :
