No, I'm suggesting that a lot of people don't understand how small gaps in power are percentage-wise.
Vader is 80% of RotS Sidious, but it would take three of him to put a nail in his coffin. If the difference between Luke and Sidious were five times that, hell yes he could dominate the Mortians--Just like Anakin could.
He's not nearly that strong, though.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
No, I'm suggesting that a lot of people don't understand how small gaps in power are percentage-wise.Vader is 80% of RotS Sidious, but it would take three of him to put a nail in his coffin. If the difference between Luke and Sidious were five times that, hell yes he could dominate the Mortians--Just like Anakin could.
He's not nearly that strong, though.
Oh my bad, sorry I misunderstood. 😛
...Luke is wiser then his father, better trained, humbler, and if he hasn't absolutely maxed his potential yet, he's pretty darn close.
Put GM Luke where Anakin once stood, and he'd defeat the Ones considerably faster then his father did.
There is nothing Anakin can do, ever, that his son couldn't do better.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Nah, what George said doesn't contradict me. Anakin had the potential to be more or less twice as strong as the Emperor, but even left to his own devices he would never have reached anything near that, and neither did Luke. Otherwise we'd see Luke ragdolling Abeloth Mortis-style.
Actually he directly contradicts what you have said, fulfilling his father's potential makes him twice as powerful as Sidious, it's simple logic.
Anakin's full potential = Sidious 200%, Luke fulfilled Anakin's potential after Jedi, thus Luke is twice as powerful as ROTJ Palpatine.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Oh and Abeloth, her powers make Revan look amatuer hour and Luke still killed her.
Abeloth have lot of power but she lacks the discipline of a warrior and fights mindlessly, this is why she (or "it"😉 faltered. Luke managed to hold his own against Abeloth in some battles because he was immensely powerful, highly disciplined and experienced warrior, and made smart decisions during combat situations.
Revan is also immensely powerful, highly disciplined and experienced warrior. In-fact, he can literally escape from danger at will with his teleportation talents (Sounds Goku-ish, I know, but this cannot be ignored anymore). I doubt that Abeloth can easily overwhelm him.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Except he didn't say Luke fulfilled his father's potential, he said he was what his father should have been, which is as much about character as it is about power.
While true that it is about character as well...indeed, character is likely even more important...I believe it was meant to include potential as well.
And my point about the fact Luke could've and would've defeated the Ones, probably faster then his father did, stands. The main difference is that he would've stayed there for the sake of the Galaxy, cause that's what his character would do.
Originally posted by The Merchant
When has anyone on team 2 tanked turbolaser firepower?
Darth Malgus have tanked missiles on-screen and dismantled/defeated enemy positions and even fortresses by himself off-screen. He would have logically contended/coped with lot of heavy shit out in the battlefields.
Revan can also tolerate turbolaser fire to great extent as per standards of a Jedi. It have been hinted that combined firepower of 4 Basilisks would be required to stop or harm him which is too much for a living being. A single Basilisk is a formidable weapon system, capable of taking on and destroying Starfighters without an issue, and good enough for major combat operations. Mandalorians have used Basilisks to damage/destroy even Republic Cruisers in confrontations in space.
HoT have also tanked turbolaser fire to some extent, if I am not mistaken. Member Neph can provide useful input in this.
Originally posted by The Merchant
And a Dovin Basals create Black-Holes.
Dovin Basals create (micro) blackholes which serve as defensive mechanisms against external threats to Vong starships, but these artificial manifestations diminish quickly after consuming enemy firepower, and should not be compared with Cosmic blackholes, not even close.
In addition, Luke Skywalker had to expend all of his energy to manipulate a (micro) blackhole, he didn't pull this off without full concentration. In-fact, Kyp Durron also have duplicated this feat.
Turbolasers from Capital ships, in-fact I'm pretty sure Turbolasers are weapons only on Cap-ships. Those things can destroy Islands and even countries. Moving a Micro-Blackhole is still impressive, I remember reading a calculation that moving a Blackhole the size of a speck of dust would be roughly around moving half of the Earth's mass.
Originally posted by The Merchant
Turbolasers from Capital ships, in-fact I'm pretty sure Turbolasers are weapons only on Cap-ships. Those things can destroy Islands and even countries.
No, Turbolasers vary in power and are mounted on many weapon systems. You can learn this by checking wookieepedia: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Turbolaser
Originally posted by The Merchant
Moving a Micro-Blackhole is still impressive, I remember reading a calculation that moving a Blackhole the size of a speck of dust would be roughly around moving half of the Earth's mass.
Dovin Basals do not create cosmic blackholes, not even close.