(FotJ) Luke Skywalker -vs- Revan (ToR)

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Who gives a ****?

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Yoda wasn't in the fight they are referencing.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
What is Skywalker's thoughts of the fight? Does he want Revan captured, killed, or demolished from the face of history?

Originally posted by Bigblue442
Location: Mustafar, Mining Facility

Grandmaster Luke Skywalker at the peak of his power, is whisked away to the same place where Anakin and Obi-wan fought.

Revan at the peak of his power is sent there, too.

Molton lava flows around the mining platforms.

They both arrive and know they have to fight to the death - they draw their lightsabers.

Who is the deadlier combatant?

'have to fight to the death' just makes it an even bigger curbstomp in Luke's favor, because he'll stop holding back. The only chance Revan had was to try to catch him off guard while he was doing the Jedi 'minimum force necessary' thing.

Originally posted by Angelalex242
'have to fight to the death' just makes it an even bigger curbstomp in Luke's favor, because he'll stop holding back. The only chance Revan had was to try to catch him off guard while he was doing the Jedi 'minimum force necessary' thing.

I have problems with that theory.

Luke's general attitude is actually more of a "defeat the opponent with trying his best not to kill them, etc." (Lumiya, etc, etc, etc.)

I remember once, someone saying that Luke's manipulation of Dovin Basals - the whole "Galaxy not being able to move him" or some such, was literal, and not hyperbole.

If such were the case, then Luke could fight any opponent (we'll use Lumiya as an example) and use his MASSIVE telekinetic control with the Force and immobilize her, easily.

In doing so, he ends a fight with no collateral damage to anyone, she's okay, he's okay - etc.

Luke would absolutely love that.

But the Litmus-test for Luke's "galaxy not moving him" feat being hyperbole or not are those situations.

And he's not capable of that. As we've seen.

- In regards to the Revan fight, yeah, Revan is pretty much screwed, here.

Unless he has the reaction-timing and foresight to teleport around Luke, and decapitate him.

Someone else could probably give good insight on that one.

Well...Luke also has 'Strong as he needs to be' issues. Luke's inconsistencies tend to be Drama Preserving Handicaps or Plot Induced Stupidty. Possibly even 'Forgot about my powers.'

It's the same kind of thing Superman goes through, when fights that shouldn't challenge him in the slightest somehow hurt him.

The power of the TVTropes is strong in this one.

Originally posted by Angelalex242
Well...Luke also has 'Strong as he needs to be' issues. Luke's inconsistencies tend to be Drama Preserving Handicaps or Plot Induced Stupidty. Possibly even 'Forgot about my powers.'

It's the same kind of thing Superman goes through, when fights that shouldn't challenge him in the slightest somehow hurt him.

The power of the TVTropes is strong in this one.

Revan iz often ztronger than he need.... Poor Revan you haven't enough occazion to zhow your full power and potential... Nododby where cloze to your own level.. exept Vitiate but that'z waz juzt an over power beazt ztronger than you.... That' doezn't count Revan.

Thiz iz batman againzt zuperman expect than bataman have zuper power that compenzate the prep include hiz preconizion...

Luke have no power, juzt a light zaber becauze he agree with the dumbazz Jedi philozophy !!!!

"Unless he has the reaction-timing and foresight to teleport around Luke, and decapitate him. "

Exept the teleportation... Well....
He already had it vefore 3.0.

Revan as of TOR 3.0 is solidly above DE sidious, yoda, and even Luke in terms of direct combat feats. He was Force folding, force storming, and TK'ing the galaxy's most powerful force users all simultaneously in a 8v1 fight.

There is no other combat feat on this level as of current lore, and hate TOR or not its canon as they are all scripted game mechanics.

In 43.5 ABY, when Jedi Grand Master Luke Skywalker and his son, Jedi Knight Ben Skywalker, visited the Aing-Tii homeworld, Luke was taught the technique by Tadar'Ro.[2] Abeloth utilized this ability while battling an allied force of Sith and Jedi in 44 ABY.[3]

Luke Force Folds too.

Luke Skywalker has only shown the ability to Force Fold objects, even with countless opportunities to Force Fold himself. Also note though Force Fold and Teleportation are different.

Folding objects is enough when you can fold a solid object into someone you don't like anymore.

Luke never displayed such ability to do something like that, even with countless opportunities to do it.

Well, folding objects into people is probably too Darksidey for him to want to do.

I really doubt Luke would hesitate killing Abeloth.

True, but the reason it took Jedi AND Sith to take her out is because she had to be hit with both side of the Force at the same time. Krayt and Vestara were taking care of all the dark side stuff, and Luke and Ben were handling the light side. So even then, Luke was sticking to his ethics.

No. Both the "Jedi AND Sith" had to take her out because she was too powerful for just Luke or Krayt alone.
I read the complete Fate of the Jedi series twice, and no where did it mention what you are suggesting.

I got the same impression, actually. That only the light side and the dark side working together could defeat her, ala the Son and Daughter.

You didn't read the series either, lol. 😬
She's not really like the other Mortis members at all.

I read the important ones.

Also, lol @Ant always harping about people not having read FOTJ because it's one of the only series he's read.