Black Lightning vs. Havok

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Black Lightning vs. Havok

Who wins?

riv6672 Senior Member

BL has at least equal, if not more, raw power IMO and a wider range of offense and defense. Going with him.

beatboks ready for the loony bin
Originally posted by riv6672
BL has at least equal, if not more, raw power IMO and a wider range of offense and defense. Going with him.

O_o seriously????

Havok's an omega level mutant with regards his energy projection he should be 》》》》》》》》》 BL

Havok stomps IMO

Sin I AM Madame Mort

Originally posted by beatboks
O_o seriously????

Havok's an omega level mutant with regards his energy projection he should be 》》》》》》》》》 BL

Havok stomps IMO

Since when?

beatboks ready for the loony bin
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Since when?

Show me a single feat of BL coming anywhere near melting something as durable as Admantium?? Or destroying a nexus of reality, containing a black hole, put jugg's on the run with a single blast, etc etc

riv6672 Senior Member

Sounds pretty formidable. I'll have to lok Havok up and then see if i change my mind.

krisblaze Senior Member

You can look him up in my new Havok Respect thread :-)

riv6672 Senior Member

Still going with BL after brushing up on Havok.
I wont belabor the point, but BL can take what Havok dishes out. He can respond in kind. He has more variety in his power set, Super human strength and speed being the least of it.

krisblaze Senior Member

He can't take what Havok can dish out, there's no way.

He doesn't have superhuman strength and Havok, with his energy absorption abilities, have a far greater shot at taking anything black lightning has to dish out.

Ambient MAJIN_OVERLORD

Havok wins this.. His got range, more juice, flight and omni-shield for defensive measure.

Estacado Legendary

Originally posted by krisblaze
You can look him up in my new Havok Respect thread :-)

Seems like making the respect thread didnt bring any respect.ermm

Havok ftw.uhuh

riv6672 Senior Member

Havok passively absorbs starlight, x rays, gamma radiation. He can do this aggressively as well.
Havok possesses the strength and speed of a man his size and weight who engages in intensive regular exercise.

BL can increase his overall strength by stimulating his muscles with electricity. BlL can further enhance his strength, by erecting a force field around his body.
BL is capable of reacting at lightning speeds. His mind and eyes are capable of process information at such speeds, that time appears to have slowed down.
BL can move at the speed of light.

Thats not me saying the above, thats their stats.
I dont see Havok absorbing BLs lightning. BL also has actual black, magical lightning to use.

riv6672 Senior Member

More posts while i was reading....

BL has telekinesis, healing, force fields, an electrical form, teleportation via electrical devices, of which warehouses are wired so there's that. It was posted Havok could "blow up". BL can do that too.
He's not losing this fight.

krisblaze Senior Member

Wikipedia entries don't win fights 🙂

riv6672 Senior Member

Neither do biased opinions.
One of us didnt go to Wikipedia, though. And one of us is biased.
I provided my reasoning as to why i picked BL. You couldnt even be bothered to find out BL has super human strength and speed.

Done here, barring some really good posts later.

Annabeth Senior Member

depend on how much energy Havok can absorb
the more, the more favorable

Sin I AM Madame Mort
Originally posted by beatboks
Show me a single feat of BL coming anywhere near melting something as durable as Admantium?? Or destroying a nexus of reality, containing a black hole, put jugg's on the run with a single blast, etc etc

Whoa luv, pipe down. I'm asking since when is he an omega. I know his feats.

Ambient MAJIN_OVERLORD

Originally posted by riv6672
Havok passively absorbs starlight, x rays, gamma radiation. He can do this aggressively as well.
Havok possesses the strength and speed of a man his size and weight who engages in intensive regular exercise.

BL can increase his overall strength by stimulating his muscles with electricity. BlL can further enhance his strength, by erecting a force field around his body.
BL is capable of reacting at lightning speeds. His mind and eyes are capable of process information at such speeds, that time appears to have slowed down.
BL can move at the speed of light.

Thats not me saying the above, thats their stats.
I dont see Havok absorbing BLs lightning. BL also has actual black, magical lightning to use.


Havok in a way can amp his speed and strength as counter and if we are going by wiki, BL power is derived by the manipulation of electromagnetic energy, an energy well within Havok ability to absorb and manipulate. A trump card that BL is not going to be able to counter as Havok far surpasses him in this ability. Ex. Almost instantaneously de powered Houdin (a planet destroyer).

This is why I give him the win.

beatboks ready for the loony bin

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Whoa luv, pipe down. I'm asking since when is he an omega. I know his feats.
if your after a specific issue I cant recall I'm afraid. However I haven't read xmen since about 2005/6 so be fore then, because I have seen him referenced as such.

beatboks ready for the loony bin

Originally posted by riv6672
Havok passively absorbs starlight, x rays, gamma radiation. He can do this aggressively as well.
Havok possesses the strength and speed of a man his size and weight who engages in intensive regular exercise.

BL can increase his overall strength by stimulating his muscles with electricity. BlL can further enhance his strength, by erecting a force field around his body.
BL is capable of reacting at lightning speeds. His mind and eyes are capable of process information at such speeds, that time appears to have slowed down.
BL can move at the speed of light.

Thats not me saying the above, thats their stats.
I dont see Havok absorbing BLs lightning. BL also has actual black, magical lightning to use.


If you dont mind my asking where is this coming from? Super strength?? BS, I've read BL and Outsiders for years. Yes BL can control the electric impulses in his body but he has never gained anything above olympic level strength from that. Christ in outsiders batman beat his @$$. His force fields helped in a fight vs Brion (Geo-Force )but he still got his but handed him. AND Light speed?? I'm gonna need some proof of that because I'm calling bull, never happened (at least not pre FP). So unless he got a massive freakin upgrade in the nu52 I'm not buying it. Ive read shit loads more BL than Havok and I cant see Jeff countering what I've seen Havok do.