Successful society without religion?

I think I see what you're saying, and it narrows the inquiry down to the point where you basically have to agree with your position.

Because for religion not to have existed, human nature would have to be fundamentally, and wildly, different than it is. Because we know that we have evolutionary traits that predispose us toward belief. It was, at one point, evolutionarily advantageous. So to say modern society could exist without religion is to say human nature had to have been wildly different since our inception as a species.

So sure, on that technicality, I'll agree. But in terms of whether it's still necessary, or is better/worse because of religion, my earlier posts cover my position in full.

Oh, i'm denying that at all.
Great reading from your fertile mind as always.

Tell you what though, going by what you just said about what people would have to be like for a religionless society to emerge...i wouldnt eant to see the end result, personslly.

Originally posted by Digi
I think I see what you're saying, and it narrows the inquiry down to the point where you basically have to agree with your position.

Because for religion not to have existed, human nature would have to be fundamentally, and wildly, different than it is. Because we know that we have evolutionary traits that predispose us toward belief. It was, at one point, evolutionarily advantageous. So to say modern society could exist without religion is to say human nature had to have been wildly different since our inception as a species.

So sure, on that technicality, I'll agree. But in terms of whether it's still necessary, or is better/worse because of religion, my earlier posts cover my position in full.

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Unfortunately, human nature will take a very long time to change to the point where religion will not exist. So, for now, we need better religions. 😉

Originally posted by Digi
I think I see what you're saying, and it narrows the inquiry down to the point where you basically have to agree with your position.

Because for religion not to have existed, human nature would have to be fundamentally, and wildly, different than it is. Because we know that we have evolutionary traits that predispose us toward belief. It was, at one point, evolutionarily advantageous. So to say modern society could exist without religion is to say human nature had to have been wildly different since our inception as a species.

So sure, on that technicality, I'll agree. But in terms of whether it's still necessary, or is better/worse because of religion, my earlier posts cover my position in full.

I enjoyed your thoughts on this, good reading, really.

I just want to say though, any society that could develop without religion isnt a society i'd like to see...