Gladiator vs Juggernaut

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Originally posted by krisblaze
Yeah, though I never fully understood that.

In WWH he got his full powers back and then they started waning again.

Cain fought WWHulk before he got the gem back and got stomped but managed to land a couple of good shots. Then when he got the gem back he battled him again and did better than about anybody.

^Yeah I meant after the arc, he had the powers for a while and then seemingly lost them again. He was nowhere near his classical levels in thunderbolts.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Yeah, though I never fully understood that.

In WWH he got his full powers back and then they started waning again.

Basically what happened was, he was fighting WWH and Cytorrak told him he'd been holding back. He just had to let him in again and be Juggernaut. Soon as he did that, bam, full powers back.

He had his full powers for a while, but they didn't do anything with him. Then the next time he showed up he got attacked by Captain Universe, the guy the Uni-Power was inhabiting was someone who got messed up by Cain at one point because of one of his fights.

He used the power to take revenge instead of being Captain Universe though, so the power left him and went to Cain. He used it to repair all the damage he did when he fought Spider-Man that first time and tunneled under the city to get out of the concrete.

When he did that, Cytorrak got pissed and took most of his power, but he's been Juggernaut he couldn't take it all at the time.

That's when he became Thunderbolts Cain. Then Cain lost his powers completely, got a loaner from an alt-u Cytorrak, then lost them permanently.

That's when Colossus got them and Cain became Kuurth. But in January there's going to be a contest of sorts to see who becomes the Juggernaut again.

I can't wait for that arc to start. I hope Cain gets the powers back and he goes back to normal.

Juggernaut vs Gladiator

[QUOTE=15001521]Originally posted by krisblaze
[B]Yeah, though I never fully understood that.

I actually have an issue where Glads gets over.But lets face it ,Juggs 9 out of 10 fights!

"That's when he became Thunderbolts Cain. Then Cain lost his powers completely, got a loaner from an alt-u Cytorrak, then lost them permanently."

Thanks, KingD, I missed this one.

Originally posted by krisblaze
"That's when he became Thunderbolts Cain. Then Cain lost his powers completely, got a loaner from an alt-u Cytorrak, then lost them permanently."

Thanks, KingD, I missed this one.

It was easy to miss as that happened near the very end of the T-Bolts run, and then after Cain lost his powers and got a teleport from Man Thing and dropped off the face of Marvel Earth. The very next issue they brought out the all red Thunderbolts and Cage's team was just...gone for some reason.

Originally posted by KingD19
That's when he became Thunderbolts Cain. Then Cain lost his powers completely, got a loaner from an alt-u Cytorrak, then lost them permanently.

That's when Colossus got them and Cain became Kuurth. But in January there's going to be a contest of sorts to see who becomes the Juggernaut again.

One slight correction: While on the Thunderbolts team, he became Kuurth, then lost most of the power after that event was over. After that, he was brought back in on the Thunderbolts, possibly at his weakest ever, and was given the Juggernaut power from an alternate Cy. After the fight, the alternate reality power up vanished. Last we saw of him, he said he just wanted to run around in a field till the power dried up.

There ya go. Something felt off when I was typing it. But it was Midnight and sometimes I get absolutely no sleep for long periods of time.

Can't wait for the "Who is the new Juggernaut" arc though.

They need to bring back Cain and make him a total badass his been a chump for like 2 decades now.🙁

How many Juggernauts have there been shown on panel?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
How many Juggernauts have there been shown on panel?

In 616?

Four different people have had the power in mainstream 616 as far as I know.

Cain Marko

Black Tom Cassidy(when Cain power shared with him)

That little kid who found the gem of Cytorrak and was making constructs and using energy attacks.

And Colossus.

Cain has also been several versions of Juggernaut. Huggernaut, Thunderbolts, 8th Day, Trion. Juggernaut Classic, Modern Juggernaut. You get the idea.

And Colossus could turn into that rage demon thing.

Originally posted by KingD19
In 616?

Four different people have had the power in mainstream 616 as far as I know.

Cain Marko

Black Tom Cassidy(when Cain power shared with him)

That little kid who found the gem of Cytorrak and was making constructs and using energy attacks.

And Colossus.

Cain has also been several versions of Juggernaut. Huggernaut, Thunderbolts, 8th Day, Trion. Juggernaut Classic, Modern Juggernaut. You get the idea.

And Colossus could turn into that rage demon thing.

I counted 4 also. Would you consider when Juggernaut was on Exalibur he was at his weakest? I'd say Juggernaut never dropped below 85 tons. He was still fighting the likes of a amped Rhino, Sasquatch, Thor, Hyperion.

-There was also the kid who tortured animals who got the power. That was when Cain and She-Hulk had a fling.
-You have the 2 asian guys who fought Cain for the full power, one when Cain 1st got the power (who he killed) and one who wanted to succeed Cain (who he let live) back in the New Excalibur comic.
-Also, a one panel showing of the 1st Juggernaut who had stone armor, also in New Excalibur.

This is probably stomp
look
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYRi7jygVnQ

Yeah no. Doesn't work like that in 616 canon.

Cain Marko Juggernaut hasn't been written well since like the 80's.