Originally posted by SSJGGogetaLol? Despite the fact that STTGL can alter reality, the fact that Gogeta can't do that, topped with the fact that he isn't multiversal (which STTGL IS, as well as Spiral Energy being a pure multiversal force itself) proves that he loses, this is a stomp, I just wanted to see the DBZ fan boys get butthurt by the fact that everything DBZ can throw at them is useless.
GT from statements, >>>>> universe level. SSJ4 Gogeta wins. With a fart.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Lol? Despite the fact that STTGL can alter reality, the fact that Gogeta can't do that, topped with the fact that he isn't multiversal (which STTGL IS, as well as Spiral Energy being a pure multiversal force itself) proves that he loses, this is a stomp, I just wanted to see the DBZ fan boys get butthurt by the fact that everything DBZ can throw at them is useless.
You should try the Narutard base then. (You know, for thinking they can actually beat DBZ?)
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Lol? Despite the fact that STTGL can alter reality, the fact that Gogeta can't do that, topped with the fact that he isn't multiversal (which STTGL IS, as well as Spiral Energy being a pure multiversal force itself) proves that he loses, this is a stomp, I just wanted to see the DBZ fan boys get butthurt by the fact that everything DBZ can throw at them is useless.
Altering reality isn't a feat. Even Piccolo could do it to a degree.
Gogeta's mere creation shined brighter than the universe, and created a spark of ki larger than it. That was SSJ1 Z Gogeta.
It was stated by Goku that Rildo was as strong as Majin Buu(presumably fat Buu), and also that he could destroy the universe.
It was also stated that the Karma ball would destroy the universe a hundred times over. Gogeta punted it into outer space, and purified it to not only not destroy the universe, but destroy the evil surrounding planet Earth.
Yeah, SSJ4 Gogeta would throw a ki blast at STTGL and he would be turned to ash.
Originally posted by SSJGGogetaSTTGL is bigger then two universe's combined and had a pocket universe within itself, also you ignored probability alteration, STTGL's greatest strength. It could also create multiversal weapons on the fly, and almost DESTROYED A DIMENSION by fighting. SSJ4 Gogeta gets crushed.
Altering reality isn't a feat. Even Piccolo could do it to a degree.Gogeta's mere creation shined brighter than the universe, and created a spark of ki larger than it. That was SSJ1 Z Gogeta.
It was stated by Goku that Rildo was as strong as Majin Buu(presumably fat Buu), and also that he could destroy the universe.
It was also stated that the Karma ball would destroy the universe a hundred times over. Gogeta punted it into outer space, and purified it to not only not destroy the universe, but destroy the evil surrounding planet Earth.
Yeah, SSJ4 Gogeta would throw a ki blast at STTGL and he would be turned to ash.
Also, they were in Hell, not space, when SSJ1 Gogeta was fighting Janemba.
So now I'm supposed to believe GENERAL RILDO can destroy the universe? Show me proof.
Karma Ball is something I know about, but that was taken from all the bad energy on Earth, I doubt Omega Shenron is a casual universe-buster.
Spiral Energy is a MULTIVERSAL force.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Altering reality isn't a feat. Even Piccolo could do it to a degree.Gogeta's mere creation shined brighter than the universe, and created a spark of ki larger than it. That was SSJ1 Z Gogeta.
It was stated by Goku that Rildo was as strong as Majin Buu(presumably fat Buu), and also that he could destroy the universe.
It was also stated that the Karma ball would destroy the universe a hundred times over. Gogeta punted it into outer space, and purified it to not only not destroy the universe, but destroy the evil surrounding planet Earth.
Yeah, SSJ4 Gogeta would throw a ki blast at STTGL and he would be turned to ash.
😘 😱 😂 😆
Originally posted by Jmanghan
STTGL is bigger then two universe's combined and had a pocket universe within itself, also you ignored probability alteration, STTGL's greatest strength. It could also create multiversal weapons on the fly, and almost DESTROYED A DIMENSION by fighting. SSJ4 Gogeta gets crushed.Also, they were in Hell, not space, when SSJ1 Gogeta was fighting Janemba.
So now I'm supposed to believe GENERAL RILDO can destroy the universe? Show me proof.
Karma Ball is something I know about, but that was taken from all the bad energy on Earth, I doubt Omega Shenron is a casual universe-buster.
Spiral Energy is a MULTIVERSAL force.
No he's not. He fit in the universe, dummy.
Sure, he was huge, but his feet are only about galaxy sized. Not to mention that it's never done anything multiversal.
Super Buu and SSJ3 DBZ Gotenks(a seven year old) almost destroyed a dimension by YELLING.
Buuhan almost destroyed the multiverse, by YELLING, and causing a multi-dimensional collapse.
Also, they were in HELL. Gogeta's mere creation outshined the reality that Hell resides in, which has an unfathomable amount of planets, kai realms, stars, etc. Not to mention HEAVEN. To hold the souls of every being that has ever died ANYWHERE, these places have to be PRETTY DAMN BIG. 👆
Yes. Rildo can destroy the universe. Or at least generate an equivalent energy capable of doing so. Rildo was stronger than Buu. The strongest form of Buu was capable of multiversal destruction with a shout. It's safe to assume Rildo was in the range of universe level, especially since he fought on par with base GT Goku.
No, the Karma ball was made from all of negative energy. PERIOD. The black cloud of energy surrounding the Earth was made from the Negative energy that has been cycled through the Earth since the Dragon Balls were created. The negative energy of a dragon GOD, capable of creating planets, bringing quadrillions of life-forms back to life in an instant, etc, etc. The Karma ball was made from all the negativity that existed PERIOD, other than of course that which resided on Earth at the time. Also, Supreme Kai said that if it landed, the Karma ball would destroy the entire universe. Plain and simple. Plus, that was a casual attack that he unleashed several times during the fight.
SSJG Gogeta punted it away, and destroyed them both. 👆
Originally posted by SSJGGogetaLol at the speculation of Buu destroying a dimension by yelling.
No he's not. He fit in the universe, dummy.Sure, he was huge, but his feet are only about galaxy sized. Not to mention that it's never done anything multiversal.
Super Buu and SSJ3 DBZ Gotenks(a seven year old) almost destroyed a dimension by YELLING.
Buuhan almost destroyed the multiverse, by YELLING, and causing a multi-dimensional collapse.
Also, they were in HELL. Gogeta's mere creation outshined the reality that Hell resides in, which has an unfathomable amount of planets, kai realms, stars, etc. Not to mention HEAVEN. To hold the souls of every being that has ever died ANYWHERE, these places have to be PRETTY DAMN BIG. 👆
Yes. Rildo can destroy the universe. Or at least generate an equivalent energy capable of doing so. Rildo was stronger than Buu. The strongest form of Buu was capable of multiversal destruction with a shout. It's safe to assume Rildo was in the range of universe level, especially since he fought on par with base GT Goku.
No, the Karma ball was made from all of negative energy. [B]PERIOD.
The black cloud of energy surrounding the Earth was made from the Negative energy that has been cycled through the Earth since the Dragon Balls were created. The negative energy of a dragon GOD, capable of creating planets, bringing quadrillions of life-forms back to life in an instant, etc, etc. The Karma ball was made from all the negativity that existed PERIOD, other than of course that which resided on Earth at the time. Also, Supreme Kai said that if it landed, the Karma ball would destroy the entire universe. Plain and simple. Plus, that was a casual attack that he unleashed several times during the fight.SSJG Gogeta punted it away, and destroyed them both. 👆 [/B]
TTGL alone is 10 million light years, making it 100 times the size of the milky way galaxy. STTGL is about 73 million light years, our universe, last studied, was 17 million, oh, and before you ask, yes, all this has been confirmed.
Also, you just straight up lied, the Karma Ball was only used once against SSJ4 Gogeta.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Lol at the speculation of Buu destroying a dimension by yelling.TTGL alone is 10 million light years, making it 100 times the size of the milky way galaxy. STTGL is about 73 million light years, our universe, last studied, was 17 million, oh, and before you ask, yes, all this has been confirmed.
Also, you just straight up lied, the Karma Ball was only used once against SSJ4 Gogeta.
No speculation. I can provide the scene, if you'd like.
None of that is true. At all. Especially since, going by your calcs there, the universe would only be 170 times larger than the Milky way Galaxy. There are trillions of galaxies in the universe, and ours is only average sized. 👆
And no, the Karma ball was used three times.
- Against SSJ4 Gogeta, when he kicked it away.
- Against base Goku, when he saved SSJ4 Vegeta.
- Against base Goku when he was making the Super Spirit bomb.
I can provide ALL the scenes, if you'd like. 👆
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
No speculation. I can provide the scene, if you'd like.None of that is true. At all. Especially since, going by your calcs there, the universe would only be 170 times larger than the Milky way Galaxy. There are trillions of galaxies in the universe, and ours is only average sized. 👆
And no, the Karma ball was used three times.
- Against SSJ4 Gogeta, when he kicked it away.
- Against base Goku, when he saved SSJ4 Vegeta.
- Against base Goku when he was making the Super Spirit bomb.
I can provide ALL the scenes, if you'd like. 👆
Creating tears in the sky and making it all cloudy out is NOT destroying a dimension. Maybe a tear in reality, but not dimension.