Is trolling just glorified bullying?

Started by Jmanghan3 pages

Is trolling just glorified bullying?

It makes fun of dead people. Does anything to get a rise out of people.

You do anything just to annoy someone, including telling them to go die, or kill themselves. Say horrible things about their dead parents.

And yes, I've looked into this, its classed as trolling.

It'd be somewhat similar if all bullies were only allowed to bully you from behind a bulletproof glass so you could ignore them. Difference is internet warriors can't really corner you and beat the crap out of you.

Depends what you call trolling.
I've been told everything already mentioned, called gay, the n-word...by the same people who call me a troll for thinking Superman isnt unbeatable.

-shrug-

Define troll, trolling and trolled. Please use diagrams to illustrate any points you attempt to make.

Originally posted by SamZED
It'd be somewhat similar if all bullies were only allowed to bully you from behind a bulletproof glass so you could ignore them. Difference is internet warriors can't really corner you and beat the crap out of you.

Well, they sort of can.

The worst cyber bullying happens when people who know each other IRL take to the internet to get at their victims. In America, there have been a few cases of young girls who committed suicide after some of their classmates bullied them relentlessly over Facebook and Twitter.

I agree that regular stranger-on-stranger trolling is pretty ineffectual, and anyone who lets that get to them is silly.

Bullies help young people to build character, trolls are useless.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Well, they sort of can.

The worst cyber bullying happens when people who know each other IRL take to the internet to get at their victims. In America, there have been a few cases of young girls who committed suicide after some of their classmates bullied them relentlessly over Facebook and Twitter.

I agree that regular stranger-on-stranger trolling is pretty ineffectual, and anyone who lets that get to them is silly.

I've heard about that, does that also fall under the "trolling" category? The word makes me think of a 12 year old in YouTube comment section capslocking racial slurs and random mother insults.

Trolling is a playful term. Like your horribly racist grandmother isn't racist, she's just "gram gram"

Originally posted by Bentley
Bullies help young people to build character...

Who builds theirs is what i wonder...

i have seen trolls who don't antagonize people at all. they just come up with a shtick and basically try to entertain people with it.

Originally posted by Bentley
Bullies help young people to build character, trolls are useless.

Sometimes bullying helps build character. A lot of the times it also leads to unfortunate psychological complexes. If Oliver North were still here I'm sure he'd be able to tell us what studies have been done on the long term impact of bullying on a wide range of subjects.
Originally posted by SamZED
I've heard about that, does that also fall under the "trolling" category? The word makes me think of a 12 year old in YouTube comment section capslocking racial slurs and random mother insults.

No, you're right, it wouldn't be trolling, it would be cyber-bullying.

Trolling is what weaker posters try to do to me due to my flawless debating.

Originally posted by Bentley
Bullies help young people to build character, trolls are useless.

My view on bullies is completely the opposite. Most of the time, being bullied has negative effects on the victims.

Bullies destroy your character. The mental, social, emotional, and sometimes even physical impacts can be overwhelming for some individuals. Bullying can alter a victim's worldviews towards pessimism and nihilism.

I'm with Flaygon on this issue

How many of you were bullied at school?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Trolling is what weaker posters try to do to me due to my flawless debating.

HAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

You are an ego booster to even the most novice of debaters.

Re: Is trolling just glorified bullying?

Originally posted by Jmanghan
It makes fun of dead people. Does anything to get a rise out of people.

You do anything just to annoy someone, including telling them to go die, or kill themselves. Say horrible things about their dead parents.

And yes, I've looked into this, its classed as trolling.

I think the way the media uses the word trolling now is very different to how it was used in the past on the internet. Once troll threads were funny, but unfortunately some people take it too far. Online forums before their demise, due to Social Media went through an awful phase. A lot of groups of trolls would lay down a marker that a forum was theirs and use ludicrous terminology copied from the Chan boards e.g. Rape you, ethnic slurs etc. These same trolls would suck up to forum mods who are often insecure, ill educated losers living in a fantasy world who will do anything for friends and these mods would protect these trolls - who would often pick on the weak, vulnerable and young of a forum. It would also make them the targets of bigger trolls who could activate these forum defender trolls for "lulz".

Many weak forummers would go along with these loser forum trolls who would feel "epic" ekudos from their self congratulatory behaviour. Eventually though these forum protector trolls would overstep the mark with their pet mods and get banned "fail" or run away from a forum for a short amount of time "butthurt", until they thought that the regulars had changed enough and they had sucked up enough to the pet mods to return often with different accounts.

The beahviours of these trolls became a template for internet bullies and has been copied by school age children. How much blood is on this type of trolls hands and the mods who protected them and allowed things like organised paedo rings to take place on their forums?

Keep the faith,

-AD

@Omega & Asbestos

Yeah, now that you mention it, the risk of trolling becoming an issue is also much lower than the risk of being traumatized by a bully. Bullying people is obviously a wrong attitude that is destructive to begin with, for each party involved.

My original intention was to note that trolling doesn't help to build character, as our span of attention online works pretty differently as that of real life experiences -for starters-.

Bullying and trolling both do more harm than good, realistically.

Originally posted by Quincy
Bullying and trolling both do more harm than good, realistically.

I don't think they were meant to do good to begin with.

Unless you pick a white-hat troll like Quan who spends hours staying on character to make us all laugh.