The Emperor's Wrath vs The First Son

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Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Nyriss slaughtered the Exile and Scourge simultaneously, the former of which, "lolsolo'd Malachor" and the latter being her equal. In case you didn't know, the Malachor feat is a Dooku-level feat (probably even higher tbh.)

Yeah, hence why I put Nyriss Dooku level. Your point?

Nyriss godstomped Scourge and Meetra simultaneously in seconds. 😬

I know, she's pretty badass. Pretty insane Revan demolished her too.

Vitiate>>Revan>>>Nyriss>>Palpatine>>>Profit?

Palpatine can dominate those two too, dork. 😐
EDIT: Wait, dork means penis? What the ****?

Palpatine can't dominate two Dooku's that easily in sabers, lmfao. Even then, you're asserting that at the very least Nyriss=Palpatine.

Spoiler:
You can't win.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Palpatine can't dominate two Dooku's that easily in sabers, lmfao. Even then, you're asserting that at the very least Nyriss=Palpatine.

Spoiler:
You can't win.

No he isn't. Because neither Scourge or Meetra are at Dooku's level.

I already won by default. 😐 I have a novelization and a reader's companion.
You simply deeming it not possible due to lack of understanding is not my issue.
And suggesting Scourge or Meetra are Dooku level is a double standard too, btw.

Originally posted by ares834
No he isn't. Because neither Scourge or Meetra are at Dooku's level.

Agreed. 👆

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I already won by default. 😐 I have a novelization and a reader's companion.
You simply deeming it not possible due to lack of understanding is not my issue.
And suggesting Scourge or Meetra are Dooku level is a double standard too, btw.

😐

I'm starting to get the feeling you don't recognize what you're saying. You used Meetra solo'ing Malachor (which is beyond Dooku's capabilities) and Scourge being equal to her as a cogent argument as to why he's>The First Son, even though Meetra in Revan is clearly not the malachor-stomper she was in KOTOR 2. Ultimately this either turns into Meetra=Scourge=KOTOR 2 Exile>Dooku, or your using of Meetra's Malachor feat as evidence of her power in the novel turns to dust.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Even though I just said Dark Warrior sucks, forcing Vette to stay in the room while you bang Lady Milf is both disgusting and hilarious.

👆

Best part of the whole damn game.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
(which is beyond Dooku's capabilities)

Apparently not.

I'm just glad that you can see the inconsistency.

Spoiler:
....right?
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I'm starting to get the feeling you don't recognize what you're saying. You used Meetra solo'ing Malachor (which is beyond Dooku's capabilities) and Scourge being equal to her as a cogent argument as to why he's>The First Son, even though Meetra in Revan is clearly not the malachor-stomper she was in KOTOR 2. Ultimately this either turns into Meetra=Scourge=KOTOR 2 Exile>Dooku, or your using of Meetra's Malachor feat as evidence of her power in the novel turns to dust.

I'll explain to you in simple terms how this works, because you seem to not be able to understand otherwise. 😄

1.) Scourge's power and skill is around Meetra Surik level: canonically stated in The Old Republic: Revan.
2.) Scourge and Meetra Surik are weaker then Darth Nyriss: canonically stated in The Old Republic: Revan.
3.) Meetra Surik is a rival duelist to Count Dooku: never stated in any canonical source, or even implied.

The flaw in your argument is your 3rd statement because it is merely on an opinion with not ultimate credibility behind it.
Meetra Surik is limited in canon by being far weaker then Revan and Darth Nyriss, and weaker then Darth Traya in power.
If you look at her Malachor V feat in the perspective of lesser then Dooku, everything adds it appropriately and correctly.
Meetra's feat on Malachor V is not beyond the Count's abilities anyway... not even Cade Skywalker's for that matter, really.

Originally posted by ares834
Apparently not.

Exactly. He's trying to deem his own opinion canonical.
Spoiler:
Still love you though, Skillz.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
If you look at her Malachor V feat in the perspective of lesser then Dooku, everything adds it appropriately and correctly.
Meetra's feat on Malachor V is not beyond the Count's abilities anyway... not even Cade Skywalker's for that matter, really.

Eeeeeeh?

Prima Guide states that Surik most likely went from room to room individually, meaning she only had to fight a few Sith at a time, then was able to rest.
It's not like the Star Forge, Luke on Dantooine, or Cade on numerous encounters when all the Sith just keep on swarming in countless raids and hordes.

Quite frankly,

-fighting through hordes of storm beasts on the extremely deadly surface of Malachor V
-slaughtering through an entire academy of elite sith assassins, acolytes and lords
-battering Darth Sion 3-4 times until he suicides
-Defeating Darth Traya, who off the most powerful nexus in the galaxy ragdolled 3 jedi council members with noticeable casuality. FYI, using the quote that states Traya is more powerful than Exile as an all-binding dictation means you'd have to accept Palpatine>all as all-binding dictation. Something tells me you'd have a problem with that.
-All of this while being weakened by the most powerful nexus in the galaxy and having her opponents amped by it,

is beyond Dooku, IMO. There is absolutely no reason to look at in the perspective of "lesser than Dooku," because that isn't a perspective cemented in any tangible reality (as they are from completely different eras,) unlike Nyriss's/Revan's superiority over Meetra. Also, Nyriss>Traya? Selenial gonna beat you up tbh.

Dooku might pull it off if he had better stamina.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
-fighting through hordes of storm beasts on the extremely deadly surface of Malachor V

Obi-Wan Kenobi can do that.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
-slaughtering through an entire academy of elite sith assassins, acolytes and lords

Cade Skywalker can do that.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
-battering Darth Sion 3-4 times until he suicides

Average Jedi beat Darth Sion before.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
-Defeating Darth Traya, who off the most powerful nexus in the galaxy ragdolled 3 jedi council members with noticeable casuality.

It's her most impressive feat for a reason.

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If Cade Skywalker was immune to drain, he could do what she did.

Dooku isn't beating Traya at the heart of Malachor V, tbh, (If theoretically Dooku was immensely weakened like Meetra was and Traya was immensely strengthened.)