Find a match for the Longinus Dreizehn Orden (Dies Irae)

Started by trexalfa2 pages
Originally posted by KingD19
D and Dracula from Vampire Hunter D.

Dracula? Sure. He would stomp the normal LDO. Atziluth Reinhard reverses the stomp though.

D is an interesting choice as an opponent to Wilhelm, though. His Briah, Der Rosenkavalier Schwarzwald, not only creates a world of night around him and gives him the ability to steal life force and create blood thorns. As Bey's (Kaziklu Bey is Wilhelm's LDO title/nickname) desire is basically "to become an invincible vampire in the night", his Briah not only gives him abilities reminiscent of vampires, but also their weaknesses. Things such as silver bullets have extra efficiency against him in that state.

On the KH front, the World that Never Was is very, very large (don't know exact size though) and it's pretty much ammunition for Xemnas to use whenever he wishes. It was created from his power and he can manipulate it however he wishes. And as one of the most powerful KH characters around, he's above Disney characters like the Disney versions of Hades and the titans and apparently, Disney characters are surprisingly powerful.

On the Vampire Hunter D front, an interesting match up right there. But if Wilhelm gets the strengths AND weaknesses of a vampire, then shouldn't D be able to defeat him under such circumstances?

Originally posted by danteiscool
On the KH front, the World that Never Was is very, very large (don't know exact size though) and it's pretty much ammunition for Xemnas to use whenever he wishes. It was created from his power and he can manipulate it however he wishes. And as one of the most powerful KH characters around, he's above Disney characters like the Disney versions of Hades and the titans and apparently, Disney characters are surprisingly powerful.

On the Vampire Hunter D front, an interesting match up right there. But if Wilhelm gets the strengths AND weaknesses of a vampire, then shouldn't D be able to defeat him under such circumstances?

We never get an explanation about the World that Never Was. We cannot just assume Xemnas created it when there's no real evidence. It could be some Nobody version of End of the World for all we know. If you mean the world he created in the final battle that looked like The World that Never Was, that is a feat from Xemnas after absorbing the incomplete Kingdom Hearts, not from Xemnas in his normal form.

The point about their fight is if D can match Bey. Even if D has weapons that do extra damage to Bey while in his Briah, even without using his Relic he is faster than the human eye can see and can throw attacks at such speeds, ridiculously durable (a 17 year old like Ren broke his hand by punching Bey's face and he found it impossible to damage his crotch. Ren would be dead if Sakurai hadn't stopped Bey. I know D is beyond Ren at the beginning of Dies in every possible way, but seen this examples of durability I don't know how would he fare), and is a city buster to boot. And that's without taking into account soul fvcking attacks.

Looking at the wiki I believe D can beat Bey by a large margin. If the data is not actually wank, that is, by I got no means to check.

Originally posted by trexalfa
We never get an explanation about the World that Never Was. We cannot just assume Xemnas created it when there's no real evidence. It could be some Nobody version of End of the World for all we know. If you mean the world he created in the final battle that looked like The World that Never Was, that is a feat from Xemnas after absorbing the incomplete Kingdom Hearts, not from Xemnas in his normal form.

The point about their fight is if D can match Bey. Even if D has weapons that do extra damage to Bey while in his Briah, even without using his Relic he is faster than the human eye can see and can throw attacks at such speeds, ridiculously durable (a 17 year old like Ren broke his hand by punching Bey's face and he found it impossible to damage his crotch. Ren would be dead if Sakurai hadn't stopped Bey. I know D is beyond Ren at the beginning of Dies in every possible way, but seen this examples of durability I don't know how would he fare), and is a city buster to boot. And that's without taking into account soul fvcking attacks.

D is even faster than that and even stronger. At one point he blitzed through an infinite amount of space in less than an instant to get to this guy he was fighting. And D can also amp himself by drinking his own blood, which makes him even more powerful than the ridiculous levels he's usually at. D has also tanked attacks beyond city buster with ease and shown he's immune to matter manipulation and reality warping since he's outright ignored the Akashic Records being changed, which results in a change of the entirety of existence. And he's got Left Hand which will also help him out a bunch if he even needs it.

Originally posted by KingD19
D is even faster than that and even stronger. At one point he blitzed through an infinite amount of space in less than an instant to get to this guy he was fighting. And D can also amp himself by drinking his own blood, which makes him even more powerful than the ridiculous levels he's usually at. D has also tanked attacks beyond city buster with ease and shown he's immune to matter manipulation and reality warping since he's outright ignored the Akashic Records being changed, which results in a change of the entirety of existence. And he's got Left Hand which will also help him out a bunch if he even needs it.

I don't doubt it, looking at the wiki D can beat Bey. I'm not able, however, able to check the source material to see if this is true, though.

That's because D is a weird series that exists mainly as actual books instead of anime or manga. So you have to read through chapters to find this stuff.

Originally posted by KingD19
That's because D is a weird series that exists mainly as actual books instead of anime or manga. So you have to read through chapters to find this stuff.

The series is exceedingly long, though. They are releasing novels (I suppose they are light novels) to this day, and I think they begun a long time ago.

Yeah. Which makes it such a hassle.

Isn't the VHD series like a dozen volumes long or something now? Could be wrong about that though...

That said, I do recall Dracula in that series being able to slice through underwater bedrock for miles with a casual sword swing. This was done while he was floating a fair distance above the water too, so it wasn't as if his sword made actual contact with the bedrock. D is more or less able to clash against such strength, iirc.

As for KH, my knowledge is lacking a bit, so don't take it too seriously about the World that Never Was. I was simply trying to note that in terms of overall power, Xemnas in base is on the same level as, if not above, that of the more powerful Disney characters. With KH under his control, his power naturally jumps considerably.