Mighty Avengers vs. The Elite

Started by leonidas2 pages
Originally posted by StyleTime
Kal can resist telepathy though.

the reasoning is faulty as well. it doesn't matter what superman could or couldn't do. has no bearing in this fight--ie saying black can beat these guys does NOT mean kal could do so. *whispers* i think that is what some people think is being said.....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Don't forget, Hat could do way more than just pull things out - he was threatening to turn blood to acid etc. So a pretty powerful mage.

Menagerie could also do mind control, and her bugs spat acid which harmed even WW.

oh, so a thunder thief, eh.....? sneer

The Elite.

Originally posted by carver9
Blue Marvel does have TP resistance fts but I don't know if it's on the level of resisting Manchester though.

He does?

Originally posted by leonidas
the reasoning is faulty as well. it doesn't matter what superman could or couldn't do. has no bearing in this fight--ie saying black can beat these guys does NOT mean kal could do so. *whispers* i think that is what some people think is being said.....

True. I just want them understand why Superman gets to bypass the telepathy argument.

On that note, I will also request resistance feats for Blue Marvel. I've seen multiple claims about his telepathy resistance but noone has produced scans or issue numbers yet. I haven't read all of his appearances, so maybe they know something I don't.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He does?

Yeah. Blade comic the team was being mentally controlled and he broke free from it. Don't even think he was being controlled tbh.

Originally posted by carver9
Yeah. Blade comic the team was being mentally controlled and he broke free from it. Don't even think he was being controlled tbh.

Was it Blade? I thought that his resistance feat happened in the Mighty Avengers several issues ago? All the same, he does have a TP resistance feat. The Avengers are also the fastest team of the two, and the strongest IMO.

Also he didn't so much resist it as he fought through it like I mentioned in an earlier post. He was definitely enthralled.

Scans?

Or title and issue# please?

Originally posted by carver9
Yeah. Blade comic the team was being mentally controlled and he broke free from it. Don't even think he was being controlled tbh.

From who?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Scans?

Or title and issue# please?

I think it was in Mighty Avengers 11

Originally posted by leonidas
lol

i love how you have to answer your own question. if you say the avengers, then you are supposing they can resist tp. if that is your supposition, it is on YOU to prove said supposition. or at the least say "i don't know if they can resist tp but i'm picking them anyway because i like the avengers more or know nothing about black and the elite."

feel free to say avengers but it's an illogical stance to take unless proof of protection vs someone of black's psi level is shown.

Mighty Avengers #12. Elemental super-vampire that used a person's water as a conduit to enthrall a victim. A younger Blue Marvel powered through it.

Kaluu saw through a world-wide illusion that had enthralled the entire planet. Heroes like Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, etc. were specifically shown. And Luke Cage outright powered through it by sheer force of will. Sometimes willpower > mental resistance.

Blade can't be hypnotized by vampires, if that counts.

White Tiger fought through the possession of the Tiger god. She now literally is the Tiger god. Again, the whole sheer force of will. But then again, she's not in this thread for some reason.

Originally posted by ODG
Mighty Avengers #12. Elemental super-vampire that used a person's water as a conduit to enthrall a victim. A younger Blue Marvel powered through it.

Kaluu saw through a world-wide illusion that had enthralled the entire planet. Heroes like Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, etc. were specifically shown. And Luke Cage outright powered through it by sheer force of will. Sometimes willpower > mental resistance.

Blade can't be hypnotized by vampires, if that counts.

White Tiger fought through the possession of the Tiger god. She now literally is the Tiger god. Again, the whole sheer force of will. But then again, she's not in this thread for some reason.

Thanks I thought that it happened in MA 11.

Originally posted by ODG
Mighty Avengers #12. Elemental super-vampire that used a person's water as a conduit to enthrall a victim. A younger Blue Marvel powered through it.

Kaluu saw through a world-wide illusion that had enthralled the entire planet. Heroes like Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, etc. were specifically shown. And Luke Cage outright powered through it by sheer force of will. Sometimes willpower > mental resistance.

Blade can't be hypnotized by vampires, if that counts.

White Tiger fought through the possession of the Tiger god. She now literally is the Tiger god. Again, the whole sheer force of will. But then again, she's not in this thread for some reason.


TY.
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Originally posted by ODG
Mighty Avengers #12. Elemental super-vampire that used a person's water as a conduit to enthrall a victim. A younger Blue Marvel powered through it.

Kaluu saw through a world-wide illusion that had enthralled the entire planet. Heroes like Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, etc. were specifically shown. And Luke Cage outright powered through it by sheer force of will. Sometimes willpower > mental resistance.

Blade can't be hypnotized by vampires, if that counts.

White Tiger fought through the possession of the Tiger god. She now literally is the Tiger god. Again, the whole sheer force of will. But then again, she's not in this thread for some reason.

Mighty Avengers sounds exactly like the trash I expected it to be 👆