why don't people count OCW feats?

Started by Nephthys3 pages

And?

Erm, Happy New Year?

Originally posted by Angelalex242
Well. Numbers can take out some jedi. If you're Yoda, Sidious, or Luke....numbers stop helping.

But apparently that's not the case with Mace or Dooku.

Originally posted by Nephthys
That's ****ing stupid.
Darth Vader mentaly ****ed Kajin so hard that he lost his force sensitivity so I guess that's your consolation prize

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Erm, Happy New Year?

Uh, love you?

Re: why don't people count OCW feats?

Originally posted by WildBantha88
I have seen nothing that counters the canonicity of them. Is it really just because they are that good?

Because so much of it is so over the top, and the one-person-army Jedi do not line up with what we see in the movies or TCW or books or comics.

Ditto a lot of the stuff in TFU video game.

Originally posted by McP
I'm wondering why people are counting feats from Dark Empire...

I find Dark Empire dumb too 🙂 However I'll note that 90% of the over-the-topness is the force storms, plus a feat of Luke deflecting AT-AT fire. For the most part it doesn't present Jedi and Sith as the physical gods, though it does make them completely over the top in force.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Uh, love you?

I am now 10 years your senior, worm.

Happy Birthday, Neph.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I am now 10 years your senior, worm.

Nemebro would have never forgotten. Just sayin' 😗

He didn't. We had hot chocolate and stared into each others eyes as dwarves serenaded us with up town girl and gave us sensual foot rubs.

It was incredible.

Originally posted by Q99
I find Dark Empire dumb too 🙂 However I'll note that 90% of the over-the-topness is the force storms, plus a feat of Luke deflecting AT-AT fire. For the most part it doesn't present Jedi and Sith as the physical gods, though it does make them completely over the top in force.

So why people consider DE Sidious as far superior to ROTS Sidious? As Force user, as duelist etc. That's so stupid...

Originally posted by Nephthys
He didn't. We had hot chocolate and stared into each others eyes as dwarves serenaded us with up town girl and gave us sensual foot rubs.

It was incredible.

LOL, Happy-B-day Nephy, here's to the many hot chocolate drinking, serenading and foot rubbing dwarves years to come cheers

Originally posted by McP
So why people consider DE Sidious as far superior to ROTS Sidious? As Force user, as duelist etc. That's so stupid...

I hold position is that he is not superior to RotS. Learning a new power doesn't make one more powerful.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I am now 10 years your senior, worm.

Oh sorry! Happy Birthday! 😄 Hope you got some Zannah plushies!
Spoiler:
And burnt them.
Originally posted by McP
So why people consider DE Sidious as far superior to ROTS Sidious? As Force user, as duelist etc. That's so stupid...

Force user? Because he does have the giant storms.

As a duelist, there's no sign he's changed one bit.

Here's a thing: Star Wars has, traditionally, had a base power level, then it's also had people who think it should be fancy magic (As seen in Dark Empire, and Tales of the Jedi, full of talismans and rituals and enhancements to blow up a star because 'the power to destroy a world is insignificant compared to the power of the force' is taken way too literally), others who think that it should replicate whatever wuxia or anime movie recently and that Jedi being 'great warriors' shouldn't be about them merely doing stuff like Luke in RotJ, but should have them solo armies and all that.

Most of the force-silliness can before the Prequel Trilogy, which sorta established what top sith and Jedi could do better. Most of the fighting silliness came after, where people saw the Maul fight, thought it was cool, and wanted to turn up the dial by a ton.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Nemebro would have never forgotten. Just sayin' 😗
👆

Anyways, I think the need to make Mace a viable threat for Palpatine in ROTS outweighs the need to explain why the 200 jedi in Geonosis needed help from the clones, hence, I'd count these.

Originally posted by McP
So why people consider DE Sidious as far superior to ROTS Sidious? As Force user, as duelist etc. That's so stupid...

He's not really, there isn't any difference between ROTS/DE Sidious save for

- The young clone bodies

- Mastery of Force Storms

Although even before DE, he was still capable of doing Force Storms, he just hadn't quite mastered them yet.

So...there's really no difference between the two incarnations save for those 2 things.

Scratch my previous post, Sidious did become more powerful/knowledgeable, I double checked. But even still