Originally posted by juggerman
Science can't be magic here, it can be there
It's a moot point because Thor and Odin flatly refute that claim. Asgardians are 3rd rate Kryptonians in the MCU.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
No magic is Asgard LOL...Kryptonians get curb stomped with utter ease by a gesture from Odin.
Orly? Feats for Odin please, because all I remeber is him being unable to save his city, his wife, and even his own life.
Originally posted by Inhuman
Well how infinity gems/stones work in the MCU can't be all technology can they?
All I've seen the gems do so far is release destructive power, no fine magic stuff like soul manipulation. And the argument is that Asgardians aren't magic, not that there is no magic in the MCU.
Also, all of this is irrelevant because Superman hasn't shown any vulnerability to magic at this point. We can't be sure he even has one.
Originally posted by Psychotron
It's a moot point because Thor and Odin flatly refute that claim. Asgardians are 3rd rate Kryptonians in the MCU.Orly? Feats for Odin please, because all I remeber is him being unable to save his city, his wife, and even his own life.
Thor and Odin did not refute that claim.
Originally posted by Psychotron
All I've seen the gems do so far is release destructive power, no fine magic stuff like soul manipulation. And the argument is that Asgardians aren't magic, not that there is no magic in the MCU.
Wrong.
They have shown to mind control, open portals, alter reality, augment strength, shoot energy beams, and in the upcoming movies time manipulation, perhaps granting super powers (the twins), and maybe crazy stuff with the soul gem with Adam warlock or strange.
Also As guardians are not on the top of the food chain in the MCU. Even Odin knew very little of the gems. We already seen celestials in gotg. The top of the food chain beings in the MCU could have more info on what is tech and magic. Also we will see once the Dr. Strange movie comes out
Originally posted by FrothByte
Thor and Odin did not refute that claim.
Except when Thor said what we call magic they call science. And when Odin said they're not gods.
Originally posted by Inhuman
Wrong.They have shown to mind control, open portals, alter reality, augment strength, shoot energy beams, and in the upcoming movies time manipulation, perhaps granting super powers (the twins), and maybe crazy stuff with the soul gem with Adam warlock or strange.
A lot of that shit could be sci-fi in origin, not necessarily magic. And it has nothing to do with Asgardians.
Here's the quote:
Jane Foster: Describe exactly what happened to you last night.
Thor: Your ancestors called it magic...
[Thor skims through a book on Norse mythology]
Thor: ...but you call it science. I come from a land where they are one and the same.
As you can see Thor says they are one and the same. Magic AND Science
Originally posted by ares834
That's not exactly what he is saying. Rather he is saying what the norse called magic and what modern humans call science are actually the same thing.
That doesn't make sense. If it was just science there is no need to point out that modern humans call it that. It would have just been "what they called magic was just science"
Thor was saying that modern humans would call what Asgardians can do as [advanced] "science", while our rube ancestors called in magic, due to a lack of understanding
Thor's saying there is no distinction between magic and science in Asgard. He's also the stereotypical dumb blonde, so who even knows if he knows what he's talking about
Of note, there's little of what the Asgardians do/create that couldn't be explained away by someone like Michio Kaku on an episode of Visions of The Future. eg Bifrost Bridge/instant space-time travel = a device that folds space-time so two points momentarily become as one and you pass through
Originally posted by Psychotron
Except when Thor said what we call magic they call science. And when Odin said they're not gods.
What Thor said was that what ancient men called magic and what modern men called science are too them (Asgardians) one and the same. Never has Thor or any Asgardians say that they don't have magic.
Odin said they weren't gods... that doesn't mean they can't do magic.
Odin himself was able to remove Thor's powers at a whim, put an incantation on Mjolnir that automatically gives Thor back his powers. Loki is able to change his appearance and create illusions. There was that Asgardian woman in AoS that can mindphuck men.
There is multiple evidence that Asgardians use both science and magic.