Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Batman goes into Mist Form then reverts back into his normal form...All Vampires can negate status effects/damage like this..
That's not quite how it works with newbie vampires. Only Dracula, and other ancient vampires were able to do the things that you think that Batman would be capable of pulling off here. he would gain all of their weaknesses, and gain their strengths. The more exotic powers like flight do not apply to new vamps. You really can't just give him powers that are out of line with how things actually work in the comics.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
What evidence is there that:1) transmutation will even work on Vampires?
2) that transmutation blocks a vampire from assuming Mist Form?
Batman would not be able to use these powers. Only Lord of Earth Vampires, and some ancient vampires could actually pull those exotics off. He would be transmuted, his swords would be turned to water, and he would lose.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
What evidence is there that:1) transmutation will even work on Vampires?
2) that a trsdmutation blocks a vanpire from assuming Mist Form?
1. I've never seen a vampire be transmuted or resist being transmuted. And if high end mystical beings like Juggernaut can be transmuted, then until I see a feat of resistance or outright negation, Vampires can be transmuted.
2. I never said being transmuted would stop them from turning into mist, as many people who get size changed or morphed retain their powers. But turning into mist won't suddenly make him go back to normal.
Originally posted by Stoic
That's not quite how it works with newbie vampires. Only Dracula, and other ancient vampires were able to do the things that you think that Batman would be capable of pulling off here. he would gain all of their weaknesses, and gain their strengths. The more exotic powers like flight do not apply to new vamps. You really can't just give him powers that are out of line with how things actually work in the comics.
Fledgling Vampires can fly and assume Mist Form...
Originally posted by ODG
Vampire Batman versus someone who one-shotted Ikon, Quasar and Silver Surfer in his last appearance???
Yep....
Different opponent, different power set...
There is a real possibility that Warlock falls to the gaze attack...
I am betting that Batmans willpower is superior to Warlocks...
Originally posted by Stoic
Warlock could transmute him to the size of a mouse though. How does Batman win even 1/10?
Batman as a vampire could mist form at speeds beyond Adam's perception, Adam wont be able to transmute anything.
Vampires have mastery of their own being, they could counter transmute anything imposed on them
Vampires are souless, soul gem is for the most part aside from weak energy output useless in this matchup.
Human batman has already been proven by on panel evidence to be multiples of FTL speed, vampiric form only amplifies this directly and indirectly.
As stated before and endorsed by other posters in this thread, Batman speed blitzes at speeds beyond Adam's compregension.
Batman transmutes into a wave of mist, accelerates to 9.8 million feet per second ( as proven with on panel evidence in the other thread), flys at Warlock. The speeds and momentum of batmans movement superheat the molecular state of their surroundings and creates a vortex of hyper heated plasmic reality. Batman right before impact turns into a stone statue, and impacts into Adam with raw kinetic force moving at 9.8 million feet per second, and a reality of hyper heated plasma.
Batman stomps 10/10.
Originally posted by Board Walker
Batman as a vampire could mist form at speeds beyond Adam's perception, Adam wont be able to transmute anything.Vampires have mastery of their own being, they could counter transmute anything imposed on them
Vampires are souless, soul gem is for the most part aside from weak emery output is useless in this matchup.
Human batman has already been proven by on panle evidence to be multiples of FTL speed, vampiric form only amplifies this directly and indirectly.
As stated before and endorsed by other posters in this thread, Batman speed blitzes at speeds beyond Adam's compregension.
Batman transmutes into a wave of mist, accelerates to 9.8 million feet per second ( as proven with on panel evidence in the other thread), flys at Warlock. The speeds and momentum of batmans movement superheat the molecular state of their surroundings and creates a vortex of hypee heated plasmic reality. Batman right before impact turns into a stone statue, and impacts into Adam with raw kineti force moving at 9.8 million feet per second, and a reality of hyper heated plasma.
Batman stomps 10/10.
Is this the first Board Walker "Complete Bullshit" post of 2015? Starting the year off right I see. 😆
Originally posted by KingD19
1. I've never seen a vampire be transmuted or resist being transmuted. And if high end mystical beings like Juggernaut can be transmuted, then until I see a feat of resistance or outright negation, Vampires can be transmuted.2. I never said being transmuted would stop them from turning into mist, as many people who get size changed or morphed retain thejir powers. But turning into mist won't suddenly make him go back to normal.
Great so you have never seen a vampire transmuted and have no evidence that they can be... 👆
As for Mist Form, we know for sure that Vamps in mist form can recondense into humanoid form at will, so even if transmutation works on him, he can turn back to normal in 2 simple steps...
Originally posted by KingD19
Is this the first Board Walker "Complete Bullshit" post of 2015? Starting the year off right I see. 😆
you call it BS because you do not agree nor understand the complexities of its truths.
Many posters in this thread do understand and they are in agreeance- with the perception I hold. Learn to differentiate between the perception of another and your own, so you wont call it BS.
Originally posted by Board Walker
Batman as a vampire could mist form at speeds beyond Adam's perception, Adam wont be able to transmute anything.Vampires have mastery of their own being, they could counter transmute anything imposed on them
Vampires are souless, soul gem is for the most part aside from weak energy output useless in this matchup.
Human batman has already been proven by on panel evidence to be multiples of FTL speed, vampiric form only amplifies this directly and indirectly.
As stated before and endorsed by other posters in this thread, Batman speed blitzes at speeds beyond Adam's compregension.
Batman transmutes into a wave of mist, accelerates to 9.8 million feet per second ( as proven with on panel evidence in the other thread), flys at Warlock. The speeds and momentum of batmans movement superheat the molecular state of their surroundings and creates a vortex of hyper heated plasmic reality. Batman right before impact turns into a stone statue, and impacts into Adam with raw kinetic force moving at 9.8 million feet per second, and a reality of hyper heated plasma.
Batman stomps 10/10.
Originally posted by Board Walker
Batman as a vampire could mist form at speeds beyond Adam's perception, Adam wont be able to transmute anything.Vampires have mastery of their own being, they could counter transmute anything imposed on them
Vampires are souless, soul gem is for the most part aside from weak energy output useless in this matchup.
Human batman has already been proven by on panel evidence to be multiples of FTL speed, vampiric form only amplifies this directly and indirectly.
As stated before and endorsed by other posters in this thread, Batman speed blitzes at speeds beyond Adam's compregension.
Batman transmutes into a wave of mist, accelerates to 9.8 million feet per second ( as proven with on panel evidence in the other thread), flys at Warlock. The speeds and momentum of batmans movement superheat the molecular state of their surroundings and creates a vortex of hyper heated plasmic reality. Batman right before impact turns into a stone statue, and impacts into Adam with raw kinetic force moving at 9.8 million feet per second, and a reality of hyper heated plasma.
Batman stomps 10/10.
Well said...
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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Great so you have never seen a vampire transmuted and have no evidence that they can be... 👆As for Mist Form, we know for sure that Vamps in mist form can recondense into humanoid form at will, so even if transmutation works on him, he can turn back to normal in 2 simple steps...
I've never seen Aunt May get shot in the face either. But that doesn't mean there's no evidence she's bulletproof. People of extremely higher magnitude than basic vampires get transmuted all the time and have no defense against it. Like Juggernaut for example. Until you show proof vamps are immune to transmutation, the chance that like pretty much everyone else can be transmuted is a lot higher than they can't. It's up to you to prove it since you're going against common sense and assuming they're immune.
On the mist form, they turn back to what they were before they became mist. If he was 5 inches tall, he'd be 5 inches tall when he turned back. There's again no evidence that he'll magically be back to normal.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Fledgling Vampires can fly and assume Mist Form...
Nope.
A lot of this only applies to Dracula, but not newly turned vampires. This has been seen time and again during the history of the character. There are some exceptions, but typically newly turned vampires don't have the higher abilities of the ancient vampires.
Powers
Vampirism: Dracula, like all other vampires, is capable of transforming an individual into a vampire by biting them. A special enzyme found only within vampire saliva is responsible for this transformation. After draining all of the blood from a victim, the victim enters a death-like state and returns to life three days later.
Superhuman Strength: Like all vampires, Dracula possesses superhuman strength. Due to his special stance as the ruler of Earth's Vampires, Dracula can lift about 4 tons under optimum conditions. With the possible exception of Varnae, Dracula is the most powerful vampire that has ever been encountered.
Superhuman Speed: Dracula is capable of running and moving at speeds greater than even the finest human athlete.
Superhuman Stamina: Dracula's body is more resistant to the fatigue toxins generated by his muscles during physical activity. He can exert himself at peak capacity for several hours before fatigue begins to affect him.
Superhuman Agility: Dracula's ability, balance, and body coordination are enhanced to levels that are beyond the natural limits of the human body.
Superhuman Reflexes: Dracula's natural reaction time is enhanced to levels that are beyond the natural limits of the human body.
Regenerative Healing Factor: Dracula is capable of regenerating damaged or destroyed tissue to an extent much greater than an ordinary human. Dracula can fully heal from multiple gunshots and severe burns within a matter of minutes, however he cannot regenerate missing limbs or organs.
Immortality: Dracula, like all vampires, is functionally immortal in the sense that he is immune to the effects of aging and is immune to all known Earthly diseases as long as he ingests fresh blood on a regular basis to maintain his vitality. Once killed, Dracula's power is such that he can resurrect himself under the proper conditions. if incinerated (as by sunlight or fire), Dracula can reconstitute himself if his ashes are placed in a coffin filled with soil from his homeland. If staked through the heart, Dracula can regenerate once the stake is removed.
Fangs: Like all vampires, Dracula has fangs and claws. He can quickly drain a victim of blood.
Hypnotism: Dracula is able to hypnotize others by gazing into their eyes for a short period of time. As Lord of Vampires, Dracula can compel other vampires to follow his orders unless their willpower is strong enough to resist him.
Shape shifting: Dracula is able to shape shift into bats, rats, a wolf, and mist. He can also turn into human-sized or larger wolfen and bat-like forms.
Sorcery: Dracula is a very powerful magician. He is able to summon and command lesser vampires, undead, packs of wild dogs, bats, and rats.
Weather Manipulation: He has considerable control over the elements and weather, enough to oppose Storm or Thor. However, Dracula is severely weakened for an extend period of time afterward.
Mind Control: A person bitten by Dracula is able to be influenced by him through a sort of empathic link. Only beings of exceptionally strong wills are capable of resisting him.