Can Galactus eat

Started by Magnon4 pages

Nah, Galactus' very role in the Universe requires that he cannot use other sources of nourishment than Life.

Both in the Mephisto scan and the Taa-II scan it is CLEARLY pointed out that he is consuming LIFE ENERGIES. Mephisto's realm contains souls and demonic life, Taa-II is filled with life of its own (said to contain entire ecosystems). But stars contain no life, thus Galactus is unable to devour them. Perfect consistency.

Hmm!

Originally posted by Magnon
Wrong, it has been well established in canon that Galactus cannot consume stars. Just before he ate the Skrull homeworld he was desperately looking for an alternative so that no more civilizations would have to die by his hand. He tried his best to devour solar energy... and failed.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Well, we have a case of inconsistent writing from marvel then...

Reed is never wrong as pertains to Galactus (and Galactus was going to eat everything during BCA)...

Marvel simply needs more consistent writing...

It might still be consistent. Reed said "probably consume the sun" after Taa 2 and battleworld. If Galactus was unsure of his limitations to the point where he actually gave it a try but failed, it is unlikely that Reed would know any more than Galactus himself about this area. So either Reed was wrong, or he said "probably" because he too was unsure.

Taa 2 is Galactus's own ship. It would make sense that he would store excess energy in a form consumable by him so he could reabsorb it in just such an emergency - it is even referred to as"his own living world". I don't think he could just absorb something like Thanos's gigantic Ark ship the same way - different energies involved.

Mephisto's realm still seemed to contain living energies based on what Galactus was doing.

Battleworld is just another world so nothing unusual there.

BCA Galactus was stated to be modified in some way (by the Celestial). Presumably he was absorbing energies in a way that regular Galactus can't. Some kind of limiter was removed.

As far as the question goes, I think he could absorb things where some sort of living energy is involved e.g. I think Mephisto's realm is tied to Mephisto's own life force in some way because he probably created it as an extension of himself which is why he is usually all-powerful there. Any similar realm could probably be absorbed, but I don't know if Dormammu's dark dimension or Surtur's realm are the same type of thing.

I don't think he could just absorb the microverse or negative zone any more than he can the normal universe. But he could absorb viable planets within them. Same for the Phantom Zone, except that I don't think it has planets at all so he probably couldn't do much.

The darkforce dimension and speedforce are probably incompatible forms of energy. I would have said no except for the Hyperstorm incident. Now that did seem inconsistent - hyperspace energy just doesn't seem like anything Galactus normally consumes.

Originally posted by Magnon
Wrong, it has been well established in canon that Galactus cannot consume stars. Just before he ate the Skrull homeworld he was desperately looking for an alternative so that no more civilizations would have to die by his hand. He tried his best to devour solar energy... and failed.

Then Death appeared to him, and convinced him that it is his role to devour life and that he should just accept it.

This is a scan where Galactus tries to consume stellar energy, and the next page he fails miserably at it (unfortunately I was unable to find the follow-up scan) :

And this is a more recent scan of Galactus devouring Solar Energy,

http://s238.photobucket.com/user/Branlactus/media/Energy%20manipulation/Absorbing/SilverSurfer01of52011005.jpg.html

also the instances of Galactus devouring energy other the biosphere energy far surpasses the few times it has been suggested he can't.

👆 and it only makes sense since stars contain all the elements necessary for life to begin anywhere anyway.....

galactus and stars

Originally posted by Magnon
Wrong, it has been well established in canon that Galactus cannot consume stars. Just before he ate the Skrull homeworld he was desperately looking for an alternative so that no more civilizations would have to die by his hand. He tried his best to devour solar energy... and failed.

Then Death appeared to him, and convinced him that it is his role to devour life and that he should just accept it.

This is a scan where Galactus tries to consume stellar energy, and the next page he fails miserably at it (unfortunately I was unable to find the follow-up scan) :

After herc with infinite power and galactus helps defeat chaos god,in the next issue Surfer throws G into sol our sun.And cunsumes A billion years worth of it`s energy.that tells me yes he can feed on stars but gets more energy from planets that support life!

Re: galactus and stars

Originally posted by zom1967
After herc with infinite power and galactus helps defeat chaos god,in the next issue Surfer throws G into sol our sun.And cunsumes A billion years worth of it`s energy.that tells me yes he can feed on stars but gets more energy from planets that support life!

See, that there might be a true inconsistency (assuming it really happened that way... I haven't read the issue). If so, I think it should just be ignored as writer error/cluelessness. Plenty of that going on with Marvel in recent years.

Galactus himself has said, after he failed to absorb solar energy, that IF he could "eat stars" he would never have to suffer from hunger again and he would never have to kill entire civilizations again. Galactus is not evil, he would not devour life-bearing planets if he didn't have to.. he would use the countless and countless of stars. Those are almost limitless in the universe, and are very easy to find! (You just have to open your eyes -- no Heralds needed.)

If we accepted the quoted inconsistency as a fact, we would have to conclude that Galactus IS evil, and kills billions of sentient beings just for funsies. Which of course makes no sense. Inefficiency is not a way to explain it away, either: if, nutrition-wise, "a billion years worth of the sun's energy" equals one planetary biosphere, there would still be enough non-inhabited solar systems in the universe to feed Galactus almost forever.

No, having Galactus eat solar energy is poor writing, showing lack of research about the character and his established canon, and the logic behind that canon. Such a change would change the entire character and the very POINT of the character. I'd rather stick to the logical, consistent, and well-established canon and ignore this one inconsistency.

Originally posted by leonidas
👆 and it only makes sense since stars contain all the elements necessary for life to begin anywhere anyway.....

It only makes sense if you want to turn Galactus into an ultimate voluntary mass-murderer.

"Darn, I feel sorry for those sentient little things.. I don't really *have* to kill anyone but I guess I'll just eat a couple of billions of them anyway 'cuz, dang, do they taste gooood!"

So it's settled Galactus can pretty much eat anything 👆

Originally posted by Insane Titan
So it's settled Galactus can pretty much eat anything 👆

Yeah, as long as it is living. 👆

Originally posted by Magnon
Yeah, as long as it is living. 👆

Dark matter disagrees but w/e.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Just for the sake of posting it:

Cool.

Originally posted by Magnon
It only makes sense if you want to turn Galactus into an ultimate voluntary mass-murderer.

"Darn, I feel sorry for those sentient little things.. I don't really *have* to kill anyone but I guess I'll just eat a couple of billions of them anyway 'cuz, dang, do they taste gooood!"

nah, stars go on to ALLOW planets to thrive and hence, stars allow life to flourish. why would he want to go around destroying stars when it isn't necessary? many stars also have planets around them, so killing the star kills the planets as well.

fact is, you've seen he CAN devour stars for sustenance if he needs to, i think he prefers not to. and equating galactus with a murderer is faulty anyway. is a lion a murderer when it jumps into the midst of a pack of zebras? he's above caring about the denizens of the worlds he devours--we've seen it many many times.

Here is implied that Galactus consumed two stars: http://s238.photobucket.com/user/Branlactus/media/Energy%20manipulation/Nova_13_008.jpg.html

And still he wanted the planet. Imo Galactus can (and did) consume stars, but it dont give him much energy.

So pending the writer, Reeds speculation on Galactus eatting the Sun was accurate...

Originally posted by leonidas
nah, stars go on to ALLOW planets to thrive and hence, stars allow life to flourish. why would he want to go around destroying stars when it isn't necessary? many stars also have planets around them, so killing the star kills the planets as well.

fact is, you've seen he CAN devour stars for sustenance if he needs to, i think he prefers not to. and equating galactus with a murderer is faulty anyway. is a lion a murderer when it jumps into the midst of a pack of zebras? he's above caring about the denizens of the worlds he devours--we've seen it many many times.

Galactus devouring stars IS a writer error.. it is in direct contradiction with what has been EXPLICITLY shown earliear and confirmed by Galactus himself. Him devouring stars also makes no sense with his earlier history and the point of the character.

Time and time again in the comic history we have seen a starving "Galactus Hungers!" -Galactus and he has been anxiously waiting for his Heralds to return and guide him to a nearest life-bearing planet. This while he has been surrounded by stars and rocky planetary systems without life on them. He cannot use those as energy source, otherwise he would have done so in critical moments when he is nearly dying to hunger.

No, Galactus eating stars is one thing I won't just accept as a retcon, because the retcon would lead to too many logical contradictions. It is a recent writer error showing cluelessness about the character, and should be treated as such and ignored. At least until Marvel comes up with a good explanation for it, and can somehow rationalize this completely new, character-changing situtation for the character (cosmic, neutral force of nature --> cosmic, evil mass-murderer).

I just thought about another instance of Galactus feeding upon non-biospheric energies...

During the original Secret War, Galactus sucked Ultrons Fusion based energies (and as we all know, Suns are powered by Fusion) right out of him (sucks it into his finger):

Maybe...its a matter of him being able to consume things he cant get sustenance from?

Originally posted by riv6672
Maybe...its a matter of him being able to consume things he cant get sustenance from?

Maybe...

The story never follows up on wether Ultrons energies were nourishing or not...

However given Reeds speculation on Galactus and what he was going to do to the Sun in preparation to battle the Beyonder, I think you can draw the conclusion that (as far as the writer of Secret Wars was concerned) Galactus can feed upon Fusion based energy...

@Magnon

I do agree with you that Galactus was originally written as having to feed upon living worlds only initially, but these are comics and things change over time (sadly enough)...

What I would like to see done in comics (and with Galactus specifically) is the addition of a bit more logic and consistency in the writing ala the Ultimate Universe...

Yes, the Ultimate Universe is fantasy as well, but it does feature a bit more logic than DC or 616 Marvel does...

Anyway, back to Galactus, they could write it so that he feeds upon living worlds because they are Carbon rich (and as we know, Carbon is essential to live as we know it); Carbon would be the key element Galactus requires in this senario...

Most stars (as most stars are Red Dwarfs and they are practically all Hydrogen and Helium) feature very little to no Carbon, so they are of no use to him; there are rare stars that have synthesized significant quanities of Carbon though...those stars would be capable of sustaining him.

Another thing they could do is what occurred in an alternate reality...

In that reality, Galactus went after worlds with life because those worlds possessed a Celestial Egg within it; life on those planets resulted from radiations emitted by the Celestial Egg at its core...

In that reality, Galactus's job was to control the Celestial population; he did this by feeding on the Celestial Egg at the planets core which destroyed the planet as a consequence...

They could make it to where the above is his job in 616, and where he could feed upon a star if need be, but he would use that as a last resort because controlling Celestial population was the number 1 priority...

Anyway, those are just my 2 cents...

@basilik

During BCA, all the Black Celestial did was make Galactus's appetite insatiable...

Tiamut did nothing to alter what Galactus ate...