Originally posted by Sin I AM
Forum flash? Cause he's not that uber in comics
With CIS and PIS off, all that remains is to add bloodlust.
Barry is still a decent guy; he's not tearing people's heads off at lightspeed, for example.
A CIS/PIS off Zoom, however......
To that end, I'd also add people like Orion, Martian Manhunter etc.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
CIS/PIS off Waverider would own any Herald as he'd be impossible to beat as you couldnt fight him...He'd just pick a point in time where you were completely helpless and annihilate you...
There is no defense to this...
PIS/CIS off Waverider defeats any Herald 10/10...
What about Zoom? PIS/CIS off still means he's in character - and he doesn't do it because it would mess the timestream up. He's still a hero.
PIS/CIS off Zoom gives no such phucks.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
With CIS and PIS off, all that remains is to add bloodlust.Barry is still a decent guy; he's not tearing people's heads off at lightspeed, for example.
A CIS/PIS off Zoom, however......
To that end, I'd also add people like Orion, Martian Manhunter etc.
To be fair Barry and Wally have both killed opponents.
As far as I know Zoom has never killed his opponent, only people close to them.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Yes, but you presented CIS and bloodlust as separate.So if Flash isn't killing people with CIS off then neither is Zoom 😛
Damn you!!!
I saw them as two separate things...
At the end of the day, Barry/Wally aren't sadistic. They're heroes. I take your point on them killing before, though. They WILL kill, but it will take some pretty extenuating circumstances. Just like Superman has killed before, but nobody here will say with CIS off he will kill. Well, I wouldn't, anyway.
Zoom, however, is pretty sadistic. And is willing to kill randomers (as with the Amazons etc - we both agree on this). He doesn't, however, because CIS is on and he wants to improve his opponents.