DCNU Superman vs Classic Juggernaut

Started by KingD192 pages
Originally posted by Stoic
He was not moving when Thor hit him with all of his might during the 8th day. He wasn't moving when molten steel was poured all over him to no effect. There are several times that he was not moving, and no sold some pretty nasty situations. I would actually say that the times that he no sold things back in the day were more numerous than the few times that things that shouldn't have hurt him did. I would call those few times PIS without a doubt. Superman would not be able to hurt him.

2 punches from Hulk knocked him down, yet he was the only one able to have an extended fight with WWH aside from Strange/Zom and Sentry.

And after that he tanked hits from Skaar for an entire fight and even tanked getting launched into orbit due to Skaar charging his Old Power for a bit while Cain fell through the air.

Illusions man, it wasnt the real juggernaut.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Illusions man, it wasnt the real juggernaut.

Lol. Must not have been him either when he fought the other Exemplar's and he and Stonecutter's brawl shook the planet iirc.

It was the real Juggernaut. Juggernaut was imitating Hulks father. Don't know where Kris got that from.

Here is the entire thing (thanks to ODG).

Professor Hulk (mind-controlled) and Juggernaut vs Avengers, from Incredible Hulk #403-04:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAvengers57403.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAvengers58404.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAvengers59.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAvengers60.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAvengers61.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAvengers62.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAvengers63.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAvengers64.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAvengers65.jpg

I thought he was being sarcastic. But considering the damage Juggernaut tanked before and after, that showing doesn't hold up too much imo.

Originally posted by KingD19
I thought he was being sarcastic. But considering the damage Juggernaut tanked before and after, that showing doesn't hold up too much imo.

I wouldn't hold that showing against Juggernaut, at all. He does have the best durability showings of any herald imo. Kris was serious by the way. He might change his stance now though.

Superman on average.

Originally posted by carver9
It depends on how strong you think an angry Merged Hulk is over Superman.

http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Hulk3389/media/comic%20book%20scans/juggslayout.jpg.html

2 blows. What's DCNU Superman best punching ft? I know his showing against H'el was alright, but who has he dropped with his fist that has Classic Jugs durability?

Who said angry hulk is stronger than superman?

Originally posted by carver9
I wouldn't hold that showing against Juggernaut, at all. He does have the best durability showings of any herald imo. Kris was serious by the way. He might change his stance now though.

I don't think someone like you has much insight into my process 🙂

Don't know if that is canon but yes, Superman can ko him if Juggernaut Is just sitting there.

That's perfectly canon. Also onslaught oneshotted him.

Don't think Onslaught knocking him out is a bad showing, at all. Superman can still ko him though. People in here are not saying he can not be dropped.

The same onslaught was overpowered by Bishop powered by Sue and a bulked up Reed was smacking him around.

So yeah, it was a bad showing.

8th Day Juggy, as I recall, is not Juggy operating on normal power levels, right? Isn't that the dude who was punching holes in dimensions and stuff? So I wouldn't use him when referring to "Classic" Juggernaut. I've heard Classic Juggy can't be hurt by physical force, but I'm not sure what his best durability feats are.

I know he has taken a wide variety of shots from Class 100's with no harm, but the problem there is that Superman can rain down thousands of those hits in the blink of an eye, and I don't recall anyone ever doing that to Juggy. So I would lean towards saying Nu Supes can't hurt him, but I'd also be curious as to his best durability feats. Has Juggy ever in his history been knocked unconscious?

I know he took a god blast, and I know that is Thor's most powerful move, but I don't know it compares to thousands of hits in the blink of an eye from a guy who can hold the weight of the planet for days when not even being exposed to sunlight.

How did Nimrod take him down?

How smart is Superman? Abhi will have this scan, I believe. Action Comics #2, where Clark uses his brain to work out how best to use his powers.

Physical force is sooooo 2014. Superman whistles at him.

Originally posted by Surtur
8th Day Juggy, as I recall, is not Juggy operating on normal power levels, right? Isn't that the dude who was punching holes in dimensions and stuff? So I wouldn't use him when referring to "Classic" Juggernaut. I've heard Classic Juggy can't be hurt by physical force, but I'm not sure what his best durability feats are.

I know he has taken a wide variety of shots from Class 100's with no harm, but the problem there is that Superman can rain down thousands of those hits in the blink of an eye, and I don't recall anyone ever doing that to Juggy. So I would lean towards saying Nu Supes can't hurt him, but I'd also be curious as to his best durability feats. Has Juggy ever in his history been knocked unconscious?

I know he took a god blast, and I know that is Thor's most powerful move, but I don't know it compares to thousands of hits in the blink of an eye from a guy who can hold the weight of the planet for days when not even being exposed to sunlight.

Don't know If speed blitz punches are gonna cut it.

If Merged Hulk can do it, Superman can do the same without much trouble.

Originally posted by Warrior Madness
If Merged Hulk can do it, Superman can do the same without much trouble.

Merged Hulk hasn't done it though...