Vitiate wins this for team 1, Starkiller is powerful but I don't think he'd ever successfully defend his mind from a Vitiate TP.
Not to mention Vitiate is much stronger than Vader and far more knowledgable in the Force, meaning Starkiller > Vader isn't as impressive an accolade.
Kyp Durron isn't a match either.
Well, Durron is tremendously powerful in the force, to the extend he could pull off the aforementioned black hole feat easier than Luke did. A ridiculous showing of power, to be sure.
He's also probably a better duelist than Vitiate judging by Luke's accolade for him.
Vitiate has advantages with his extremely potent FL and TP (though l'm not sure if it will work instantly).
Starkiller vs. Orbalisk Bane is a close one IMHO. Bane gets the edge in sabers due to the Orbalisks, of course.
However, Starkiller is superior in the force.
I’m still undecided.
Without a nexus Vitiate is useless.
Bane would get destroyed via ragdoll or by literally getting dominated in the force by either.
Team 2 SLAUGHTERHOUSE
Originally posted by Nephthys
Durron is hugely overrated and he can't stand against Orbalisk Bane for very long.
Says the guy that Bane could beat TPM Sidious or DE Luke? 👆 Lol
Which is a dumb example because either of the guys on team 2 are more powerful than Malgus 👆. Vitiate can't do anything to these two their feats with the force exceed his off nexus. Considering all of the idiotic things you've said regarding Bane and SWTOR, its no wonder most of the newer posters don't take you seriously.
Bane might be out of his depth here as a force-user. Both Kyp and Starkiller have far superior showings and can likely dominate him with their attacks.
The opposite is true for Vitiate. While he is a powerful force user in his own right, he lacks dueling skills in comparison to either Durron or Starkiller who are just better in this regard.
Bane's lightning is incredibly powerful though. So I don't see how he's out of his depth as a force user in that regard. Plus with the orbalisks he's incredibly hard to damage with TK and regenerates extremely fast. And on the flip-side he's a much more deadly duelist than either of them. He can power through their attacks and dominate them.
As if either will be able to engage Vitiate in sabers. You forget that even drastically weakened Vitiate waltzed up to the HoT's lightsaber and still managed to give an "apocalyptic battle". His saber weakness is insanely overhyped.
What they would have to do is to keep Bane at bay. Given that they can atomize frigates or manipulate blak holes they will pull it off. Bane's FL can be dodged too.
Starkiller and Kyp are also much more powerful than HoT, so they will be able to tango in the force with Vitiate. No nexus amp does not make it easier for Viti here.
In contrast to how they fight Bane, they need to be close on Vitiate.
By that logic everyone's lightning can be dodged. It's not as if Bane's is extra slow or small, its the same speed as all force lightning and he conjures storms of it. Yet lightning is rarely dodged. TK can be avoided too if we're going there, by people slower than Bane. Keeping Bane at bay won't do shit considering they need to take him out before Vitiate kills one of them and turns his attention elsewhere. Which they won't. Orbs are too OP.
The HoT demonstrated the ability to defend against weakened Vitiate's force powers. So don't act as if she lacked in that and Kyp and SK have an easier time of it. Yet Vitiate still gave her an incredible fight with her saber inches from his face, these two won't be that close and will have to get through Vitiate's force powers to get to him. Which they won't. We've already seen what happens when Starkiller goes up against a being of Vitiate's power, he goes boom. And I'm not even sure Kyp has ever blocked lightning.
Originally posted by Nephthys
By that logic everyone's lightning can be dodged. It's not as if Bane's is extra slow or small, its the same speed as all force lightning and he conjures storms of it. Yet lightning is rarely dodged. TK can be avoided too if we're going there, by people slower than Bane. Keeping Bane at bay won't do shit considering they need to take him out before Vitiate kills one of them and turns his attention elsewhere. Which they won't. Orbs are too OP.The HoT demonstrated the ability to defend against weakened Vitiate's force powers. So don't act as if she lacked in that and Kyp and SK have an easier time of it. Yet Vitiate still gave her an incredible fight with her saber inches from his face, these two won't be that close and will have to get through Vitiate's force powers to get to him. Which they won't. We've already seen what happens when Starkiller goes up against a being of Vitiate's power, he goes boom. And I'm not even sure Kyp has ever blocked lightning.
1. Um, there's an instance Bane's FL was dodged, so I see no issue here in what I said.
2. Keeping Bane at bay with their superior force powers will accomplish two things:
a) not engaging in a duel where Orbalisk might be a problem and b) kill him if enough force power will be whooping his ass.
3. HoT is much less powerful than SK or Kyp so the point is moot.
4. SK and Kyp have superior feats to Vitiate off nexus, so I don’t see how getting to him will be an issue.
5. We never see Viitate take a sh*t so we can assume he to carries his feces inside his pants at all times? AotC Kenobi knows how to block FL, I think Kyp knows it too.