Yoda vs Luke Skywalker (sabers only)

Started by Angelalex2422 pages

How much better is Prime Yoda then ROTS (or even TPM) Yoda?

Theoretically, TPM Yoda>ROTS Yoda, cause he's a few years younger.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Dude, she's glowing during the fight.

It's the shitty art. Characters "glow" through out the series.

And, while that may have been the original intention, the audio drama makes it absolutely clear that she did not amp Luke until after the duel.

Nah, Luke gets smacked down. She starts glowing, Luke cuts his hand off. She closes her eyes and everything. Luke and Palpatine are not glowing during the fight. Leia doesn't amp Luke after the fight either, at that point, she's supposed to be linking herself and Luke with Anakin to cut Palpatine off from the Force. Not to mention, doesn't Luke rediscover most of the lost saber forms after DE?

After the fight she adds her powers to Luke to help him make Sidious lose control of his force storms. She "adds" her powers to his, but only after Luke has defeated Sheev in a duel. This is all clearly stated in the audio drama. I'm going to take the clear statements over your interpretation of some ambiguous lines and shitty art.

That's not what I said. Luke is not amped at any point during the fight or after. However, while Luke is fighting Palpatine, Leia is unclouding his mind and allowing Luke to tap into his own potential. That's also said. Luke went from getting his ass handed to him, to cutting Palpatine's hand off. All with Leia's help.

Helping Luke focus is, for all intents and purposes, an amp. That said, she isn't helping during the duel. Afterwords, she adds her power to his. Before hand, she "unclouds" his mind freeing him from the dark side. During the duel, nada. She just watches in amazement.

How do you watch with your eyes closed, head bent, and yourself glowing? You can think what you want, though. We obviously aren't getting anywhere with this.

Like I said the art is shit. Multiple times we see characters glow.

From the audio drama, "But we can Luke. We can do it. That's what the holocron meant. Let me add my power to yours."

Seems to be clear that Leia wasn't helping Luke until after the duel.

Luke's DE performance isn't at issue here, because if all Leia did was 'unlock his potential' and 'help him concentrate', then Luke achieved that potential on his own at the point we're pitting him against Yoda.

In short, the amp Leia gave him didn't do anything for him he can't do by himself now.

I think what Freshest said makes sense. 😍

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Luke went from getting his ass handed to him, to cutting Palpatine's hand off.

The first fight happened on Byss, a Dark Side nexus, so advantage to Palpatine.

The next battle was on neutral ground IIRC.

Originally posted by ares834
Helping Luke focus is, for all intents and purposes, an amp. That said, she isn't helping during the duel. Afterwords, she adds her power to his. Before hand, she "unclouds" his mind freeing him from the dark side. During the duel, nada. She just watches in amazement.

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