Luke Skywalker vs. Vitiate

Originally posted by Selenial
Oh, just thought I'd say, that's overruled by TCW.

TCW States him to be more powerful than any known Jedi.

Did the narrator of TCW say "more powerful than any Jedi" or "any Jedi or Sith"? I can't remember.

Either way it is kindy sh***y that they changed his Official Profile from saying something like "he had the potential to become the most powerful force user of all time" to "..had the potential to become One of the most powerful Jedi of all time.."

But also is irrelevant to this thread seen as Vitiate doesn't even officially exist in the new revamped canon.

So if Aboleth is worth 12 Lukes, she's worth 24 of Sidious?

Luke isn't twice as powerful as Sidious. He isn't shown to be anyway.

If Anakin's max is 2x Sidious, and Luke is almost as good as dear old dad, then Luke's max should be something like 1.9 Sidious.

Except he isn't. Luke hasn't even shown himself to be anywhere near that powerful.

Nephthys
who also according to Lucas had the potential to be twice as powerful as Sidious.

George Lucas
"However, after all of his limbs were severed and he was extremely burned on Mustafar he lost much of his Force potential. As Darth Vader, Skywalker was believed to have had roughly 80% of the strength of the Emperor. Had he sustained none of his injuries on Mustafar he would have been twice as powerful."

So yeah. Bullshit. I also don't think GL needs to/would hinge the validity of that factoid on the "was believed" bit. Identify and verify or let it die.

Spoiler:
If I've missed a valid sourcing... oops.

I've posted the quote before. I believe it was from his interview with Rolling Stone.

Edit: The interview was back when RotS was being released.

Edit 2:

Originally posted by ares834
Nah. It's in the Vanity Fair Interview from February 2005.

"Anakin, as Skywalker, as a human being, was going to be extremely powerful," he says. "But he ended up losing his arms and a leg and became partly a robot. So a lot of his ability to use the Force, a lot of his powers, are curbed at this point, because, as a living form, there's not that much of him left. So his ability to be twice as good as the Emperor disappeared, and now he's maybe 20 percent less than the Emperor. So that isn't what the Emperor had in mind. He wanted this really super guy, but that got derailed by Obi-Wan. So he finds that, with Luke, he can get a more primo version if he can turn Luke to the Dark Side. You'll see, as this goes on, Luke is faced with the same issues and practically the same scenes that Anakin is faced with. Anakin says yes and Luke says no."

I don't actually have the issue mind you and am using an online version of it.

Unless Lucas specifically said he was changing his mind about that, word of Lucas still trumps anything a website says.

Lucas also said he never read the EU and the emperor was never cloned. He also said Luke could be as powerful as Anakin would have been. He never said he was.

Originally posted by Angelalex242
Unless Lucas specifically said he was changing his mind about that, word of Lucas still trumps anything a website says.

He doesn't own Star Wars anymore. Disney's authority now supersedes his.

I thought they kept him on for canon purposes. They can't retroactively abolish his canon.

Ehhhhhhh.

Well, let's not do a canon debate. However, I do believe the admin here need to update the canon hierarchy thread.

Need to be reminded if Word of Lucas trumps Word of Mickey Mouse or not.

ares834
I've posted the quote before. I believe it was from his interview with Rolling Stone.

Edit: The interview was back when RotS was being released.

Edit 2:

Does Lucas say elsewhere that Luke actually had his father's potential—not just to whet the appetite of and presumably (~significantly) surpass the Emperor, but in totality? I didn't read through the whole piece, but it certainly isn't made explicit in the excerpt.

Nope, at least not that I know of.

Luke doesn't have to be twice as powerful as Sidious (in realized power) to win this. He has a potential to be like his father, has he/will he reach that potential? Who knows.

Yet, Luke's feats establish him as a tad above DE Sidious IMHO, This is more than enough to take down most Sith.

Bump. 🙂

Luke stomps

Vitiate

Your trolling is more obvious than that PT Legend guy's lmao

Originally posted by Azronger
Your trolling is more obvious than that PT Legend guy's lmao

You accuse me of trolling when you have similar opinions yourself? Which genius came up with this stupid logic?