Vitiate and Sidious vs. Talzin and Yoda

Scenario 1:
Location: Dathomir
1. Sabers
2. Force
3. All Out

Scenario 2:
Location: Dromund Kaas Citadel
1. Sabers
2. Force
3. All Out

Scenario 3:
Location: Neutral Ground
1. Sabers
2. Force
3. All Out

Who takes the majority?

The Sith

Sith by a long shot. Since a weaker version of Sidious wasn't specified, it's assumed to be his DE version. Poor team 2. Poor totally outclassed Talzin.

Yoda would've needed Luke as a partner to pull this off.

If It's ROTS Sidious then 1 and 3 go to team two, if it's DE they lose all 3.

1 Team 1 1 and 3.

Team 1 in all round !

Team 1 in all round.

I'm not sure if Talzin can beat Vitiate, that could go either way. Sidious will kill Yoda though

Well, it depends on the incarnation. If it's ROTS Sidious, Talzin can hold him off round one while Yoda beats the shit out of vitiate.

Originally posted by Selenial
Well, it depends on the incarnation. If it's ROTS Sidious, Talzin can hold him off round one while Yoda beats the shit out of vitiate.

The sith win.

Originally posted by Selenial
Well, it depends on the incarnation. If it's ROTS Sidious, Talzin can hold him off round one while Yoda beats the shit out of vitiate.

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Talzin cannot hold off Sidious. Yoda can hold off ROTS Sidious...and indeed did so, but the resulting draw is in Sidious' favor.

Vitiate is the wild card here, how useful he is depends greatly on what amps are around and how much prep he has. If the answer is 'sufficient to perform at his usual level' then he can take Talzin, who is most certainly not an Emperor.

Talzin tanked Sidious and then Sidious and Dooku simultaneously in one of her weakest states (she died during the Jar Jar episodes). Maul then lent her his power but she reacted by just Force Pushing him.

Full strength Talzin was strong enough to take on Sidious toe-to-toe, no wonder Sidious was peeing his robes at the thought of the even more powerful Gethzerion.

Talzin is more than enough for facing Sidious or Vitiate.

None stands to Sidious. As I said earlier, this is the Emperor Reborn we're talking about. She's got nothing on Force Storm.

DE Sidious should be specified I am taking this as ROTS Sheev.

I figured unspecified always meant 'strongest known incarnation that did not rely on amps'

Interesting thread 👆

Assuming it's RotS Sidious:
On Dathomir and neutral ground, Talzin and Yoda take it. Yoda can speedblitz Vitiate tbh, while Sidious figths a longer battle with Talzin.

Assuming it's DE Sidious:
Sidious and Vitiate take all, probably.

This is ROTS Sidious, DE Sidious would obviously make this an unbalanced thread.

I thought so, Yoda takes out Vitiate whilst Talzin tanks Sidious.

Undecided. Luke ranks the top of the mortals and Vitiate is the very bottom of the immortals.

Just for the lulz....

Does anything change for Team 1 if it's ROTJ Sidious? Who seems to be stronger in the Force but not quite as good a duelist as his ROTS incarnation. Old age hampering his saber skills somewhat.

^I put ROTS Sidious slightly above ROTJ Sidious for the same reasons I put ROTS Sidious above Vitiate.