Chris Kyle

Originally posted by Robtard
According to Routh's mother, her son had been in and out of VA hospitals for a couple years, showing no signs of progress with his mental problems, why she approached Kyle as a last ditch effort.

Taking that into account, Kyle should have maybe taken Routh to, I don't know, a fair, to dinner, a movie, a petting zoo or pretty much any place that didn't involve having guns all around. At least the first time out, to get a feel with how messed up Routh was. Like I said, case of poor judgment.

It's poor judgment to throw rocks at police but hell, people do that and get shot.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
It's poor judgment to throw rocks at police but hell, people do that and get shot.

It is and they shouldn't be

So what have we learned today:

1) Kyle used poor judgment and got shot
2) Crazy homeless man used poor judgment and got shot

Originally posted by dadudemon
Also, that site seemed to gloss over the part where Kyle said he was glad he killed those harming Americans and the people loyal to the new Iraqi government. Oh, what's that? That doesn't fit their agenda that Kyle was fighting for two nations? Sure, Kyle has a clear ignorant bias towards Americans but that's to be expected from a member of the military because they are literally brainwashed (systematically) to believe those things to their core. This is necessary to keep their operations running as efficiently as possible (if you have a bunch of soldiers, in a combat zone, constantly questioning their orders and what they are doing there, you're going to have a bad time.

Not surprising to me at all that you would spew filth like this. Your anti-American *** doesn't understand American patriotism and loyalty at all. It may surprise someone of your ignorance to learn that most Americans join the military to serve their country because they actually love it, dumbass. No one forces us too. It's a great honor. I understand that something like that is beyond your comprehension and understanding.

I had a deep love for my country long before I served my time in the US Navy so your ignorant comment that Americans have to be "brainwashed" in order to feel that way about their country and fellow Americans is about the stupidest thing I've ever seen you post, dude.

Originally posted by Star428
Not surprising to me at all that you would spew filth like this. Your anti-American *** doesn't understand American patriotism and loyalty at all. It may surprise someone of your ignorance to learn that most Americans join the military to serve their country because they actually love it, dumbass. No one forces us too. It's a great honor. I understand that something like that is beyond your comprehension and understanding.

I had a deep love for my country long before I served my time in the US Navy so your ignorant comment that Americans have to be "brainwashed" in order to feel that way about their country and fellow Americans is about the stupidest thing I've ever seen you post, dude.

You know, the ignore button is such a useful feature of this site I have to say. 🙂

By ignoring everyone who can out-debate you, you ensure that you always win.

LOL. That has nothing to do with it dude. Maybe that's what you use ignore button for but not me. It's for people who have either insulted me or my beliefs or who have irritated me in some way.

I just read the news that Kyle's killer has been convicted and will serve life in prison. Justice served this time.

Yay!! 💃 💃

Good to hear your country doesn't care about the mentally ill.

Kind of surprised not to hear a "Those who live by the sword..." comment but maybe that's too soon.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Good to hear your country doesn't care about the mentally ill.

If Routh is actually mentally ill, it is a shame he was given life in prison. He'd be better served in high security mental ward

He was apparently in and out of mental wards after his tour, and was officially diagnosed with schizophrenia.

The only reason I'm not on the "wow, way to ignore his mental health issues" wagon is that he apparently REFUSED to admit in the trial that he had a mental illness, and insisted that he knew his actions were wrong but wanted to do them anyway.

Which... murks things up a bit.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
he apparently REFUSED to admit in the trial that he had a mental illness, and insisted that he knew his actions were wrong but wanted to do them anyway.

Which is exactly what a crazy person would do

Indeed. My point is just that, I don't think it's the courts' job to build your case for you. if you ignore your own lawyer's advice and insist that you be tried as a normal, functioning adult.... well, you have a right to that, I think.

Still think life without possible parole is silly though. Also, a two hour deliberation makes me think they rail-roaded the shit out of his case. #Texas

Could be wrong, but I think the medical experts they call in can supersede the wishes of the defendant if said defendant is not mentally capable, which seems plausible since you noted Routh was "officially diagnosed with schizophrenia". Seems his mental condition had already been established prior to the trial.

eg Why the courts can lock up someone if they feel they're crazy enough to harm themselves or someone else, even if they actually haven't

Could be, dunno much about how the law works.

I'll ask KMC's resident Jew Lawyer, later.

I can see the point brought up if Routh hadn't already been officially diagnosed with a severe mental disorder, but it seems the courts already had medical proof that he is a loon.

It is Texas though, so not shocking if the "we know he's crazy" was overlooked.

#Texas is kind of the explanation I'm leaning toward for everything, too.

Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if capital punishment was still on the table even if it was acknowledged that he had schizophrenia.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Good to hear your country doesn't care about the mentally ill.

Uh, you do know that this guy who was supposedly "mentally ill" got a fair trial right? While his mental state is debateable the jury decided after hearing all the evidence that he at least still recognized right from wrong.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Indeed. My point is just that, I don't think it's the courts' job to build your case for you. if you ignore your own lawyer's advice and insist that you be tried as a normal, functioning adult.... well, you have a right to that, I think.

Still think life without possible parole is silly though. Also, a two hour deliberation makes me think they rail-roaded the shit out of his case. #Texas

Or perhaps it was such a clear-cut case that lengthy deliberations were not required. Everyone knows that the guy killed them. The only thing that was to be decided was wether or not he was actually insane. Taking only a couple hours to decide that is not far-fetched by any means.