Originally posted by Psychotron
There's no proof Hulk was amped between IH and Avengers.
I for one saw a large power and control increase between Hulk 2008 and Avengers 2012, seemed to me Banner learned a lot about the Hulk in those 4 years.
Like being able to transform at will, having the power to one-shot a massive armoured alien ship from the get-go and keeping enough control he can work as a team
Originally posted by Robtard
I for one saw a large power and control increase between Hulk 2008 and Avengers 2012, seemed to me Banner learned a lot about the Hulk in those 4 years.Like being able to transform at will, having the power to one-shot a massive armoured alien ship from the get-go and keeping enough control he can work as a team
He was kind of in control in IH as Froth mentioned. He was fighting Abom and protecting the chopper. So there isn't that much of a difference between the two versions on that level. The reason we didn't see Hulk throw any Leviathan-busting punches in IH is becuase he didn't face anything like that, he just fought some regular military guys and equipment, then Abomination. So because they are the same character and because no amp was shown or mentioned there is no reason to assume Avengers Hulk is stronger than IH Hulk.
Originally posted by carver9You need to rewatch that fight. Thors hammer did almost KO Hulk. That was pretty clear from the vacant look on Hulks face for a couple of seconds before he came to his senses.
Lol...Thor hits did nothing to the Hulk. He tanked a full hammer hit to the face without a scratch. Thor then knees Hulk when Hulk tries to pick up the hammer and it did nothing. Nobody is saying Thor can't budge Hulk but his licks did absolutely nothing. By the time we see them again, Thor is getting slung, thrown through tables, tossed across the room. He couldn't do a thing. Now Hulk fought dumb in that battle. Compare that to what we saw from Abomination, a tactical fighter, Thor gets killed here, worse than his showing against Kurse. Crazy thing is a boulder throw from Kurse damaged Thor whereas a full hammer hit from Thor did nothing to the Hulk. Also lol at someone saying that hammer hit almost koed Hulk. Just stop.
And Hulk throwing Thor across the room did literally nothing to Thor. Thor made Hulk look like a child for the majority of that fight, and that was him mostly holding back.
And lol at Abom being worse than Kurse. Kurse is on another level from this entire group.
Originally posted by PsychotronHe looked pretty out of it laying back on the jet with his eyes closed for a bit. Then he gets up to his stunned/slightly cognitive phase and proceeds to pull himself together to get back to brawling. It was the same as his fight with Abom. The first hit from Abom had also almost completely done him in. Another hit of the hammer would have ended everything, and with the way Thor was bobbing and weaving, and dominating before that, he should have had no problems getting more hits with the hammer. Instead, he tries to subdue the Hulk more peacefully by just choking him with it for a bit, and then completely ditches it (for some reason) for the short remainder of the confrontation. That was massive levels of CIS.
Come on now, Hulk was most definitely not "almost KOed", he was a little stunned but that's about it.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
He looked pretty out of it laying back on the jet with his eyes closed for a bit. Then he gets up to his stunned/slightly cognitive phase and proceeds to pull himself together to get back to brawling. It was the same as his fight with Abom. The first hit from Abom had also almost completely done him in. Another hit of the hammer would have ended everything, and with the way Thor was bobbing and weaving, and dominating before that, he should have had no problems getting more hits with the hammer. Instead, he tries to subdue the Hulk more peacefully by just choking him with it for a bit, and then completely ditches it (for some reason) for the short remainder of the confrontation. That was massive levels of CIS.
Not a good comparison, Hulk could barely stand after the initial collision between him and Abomination, but he got up and went on the offensive almost immediately after Thor's hit.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
You need to rewatch that fight. Thors hammer did almost KO Hulk. That was pretty clear from the vacant look on Hulks face for a couple of seconds before he came to his senses.And Hulk throwing Thor across the room did literally nothing to Thor. Thor made Hulk look like a child for the majority of that fight, and that was him mostly holding back.
And lol at Abom being worse than Kurse. Kurse is on another level from this entire group.
He got right back up after that i hit. Majority of Thor hits came from when he was doing other things than slapping Thor around. His main hit came when he hit Hulk with that uppercut that Hulk shrugged off.
Thor throws Mjlonir, Hulk grabs it. Hulk then tries to pick it up. While Hulk isn't paying attention to Thor, Thor jumps over and knees him and then tries to choke him. Hulk then puts all of his attention towards Thor and toss him everywhere.
No one is saying Hulk can not move Thor, because he can but almost all of his licks did absolutely nothing at all to Thor, The Hulk is strong enough to budge or even toss Thor, doesn't mean that he caused damage while doing this. As shown, Thor was only slightly injured once. There's a difference between moving someone and causing then harm.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Not a good comparison, Hulk could barely stand after the initial collision between him and Abomination, but he got up and went on the offensive almost immediately after Thor's hit.
And Thor also got back up and went on the offensive after Hulk hit him. And as has been repeated over and over, the Hulk that Thor fought was in a more uncontrolled rage.
Besides, I don't hold to any illusions that Thor is as strong as Abom. Just saying that multiple hits from Mjolnir looks like it will definitely KO if not outright kill Hulk.
Originally posted by carver9
He got right back up after that i hit. Majority of Thor hits came from when he was doing other things than slapping Thor around. His main hit came when he hit Hulk with that uppercut that Hulk shrugged off.Thor throws Mjlonir, Hulk grabs it. Hulk then tries to pick it up. While Hulk isn't paying attention to Thor, Thor jumps over and knees him and then tries to choke him. Hulk then puts all of his attention towards Thor and toss him everywhere.
Hulk didn't just "shrug off" Thor's hits. Hulks hits to Thor did roughly the same amount of damage as Thor's hits did to him. Meaning, they both hurt each other but not enough to put the other down.
Originally posted by FrothByte
And Thor also got back up and went on the offensive after Hulk hit him. And as has been repeated over and over, the Hulk that Thor fought was in a more uncontrolled rage.Besides, I don't hold to any illusions that Thor is as strong as Abom. Just saying that multiple hits from Mjolnir looks like it will definitely KO if not outright kill Hulk.
I never said Thor didn't hurt Hulk, just that he didn't "almost KO" him. I hold Thor and Hulk as equals, or near equals, however, Abom is >> Hulk. At the start anyway.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Hulk didn't just "shrug off" Thor's hits. Hulks hits to Thor did roughly the same amount of damage as Thor's hits did to him. Meaning, they both hurt each other but not enough to put the other down.
Thor has a nose bleed. That fight could have gone numerous of ways for the Hulk during the end. He chose to toss Thor around instead. Also, Hulk was more pissed against Abomination than he was against Thor. This isn't a fight, at all. It's a massacre. Abomination "tanked" punches to the face from Hulk. Thor on his best day wouldn't do anything close to that.