Naruto vs. Goku

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Yup you don't know about Naruto so please dont think you do Naruto have
Planetary level being (Kaguya)
Moon level beings (Hagoromo,Naruto,Hamura, and sasuke,Toneri,Madara)
Multiple meteorite level beings (Naruto,Hagoromo,Madara,Sasuke, and Toneri)
Meteorite level being (Nagato)

Even Piccolo was able to bust up the moon Death Star style in the Saiyan Saga by extending his palm, when he was barely worth of note next to Raditz. Do you seriously think that planetary threats are that big a deal, hell, Kaguya's not even planet busting

Dbz has what?
2 canon planet level beings who use GIANT energy balls that a few Naruto characters can absorb?
1 non-canon planet buster that can be killed by lava level attacks?

You arguing Nardo characters can absorb planet busters. Okay then, mind showing evidence for that good sir?

Also, killed by lava, oh look a low showing

No dbz character can tank lava or sun level attacks

Low end showings do not count as evidence, even if we were to do this, love to see Nardo do better

No dbz character has busted a star nor anything like a solar system or galaxy

No Nardo character's busted a planet

Goku couldn't lift 40 tons at based

Nardo and co were too slow to reach Pein during his 5 second recharge time.... from meters away

You really want to go down the route of using low ends as evidence?

Goku needs his friends more then his strength

Useless red herring

Goku couldn't defeat cell

>Implying not being able to beat Cell is some kind of low end showing

Naruto has 10 elements
Naruto have breath on the moon in space

Whoa! He can control the elements, oh no! Why did nobody tell me!

survived a moon level attack and pared in speed with toneri who can send meteorites and dislodge the moon from orbit
._. See how I am using fact?

DBZ charactr survive attacks from eachother, and they can bust planets and fun shit and outfly/dodge ki blasts that can reach orbit in seconds and fun shit. Whoop-dee-****ing-doo

Kindly shut the **** up and don't speak of anything DBZ related, or at least get some lessons in grammar while you're at it

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Me ass pulling are you referring to when I crushed you so bad you started crying "all low showings are game mechanics". Ok sport, you got caught lying (twice) and are now trying to argue around the fact Broly was brought up, I'm fine with him being a non canon outlier but Vegeta also died during the Buu saga to a blast that did minimal real damage to the surroundings.

Btw I meant all the parts that I didn't respond to aren't important to the debate, thus dumb to bring up, grow thicker skin.

Also when did Goku Lift King Kai's planet? He was on it and it has increased gravity but I don't remember him doing anything to it.

Yeah and the blast Yusuke attacked Raizen with only caused a small hole in the building behind him, and he sure as hell wasn't pulling his punches, yet none of us would be retarded to claim that his attack was weaker than anything he utilized when fighting Sensui in CB

Cell seriously damaged SSJ2 Gohan with a ki blast that only had collateral damage comparable to a 120mm, yet none of us would be retarded to claim a character who can damage a SSJ2 with a casual attack is much weaker than Piccolo during the 23rd Tournament that razed an island

Lion El Jonson and Luther in 40K's fight caused a mountain range+ sized temple that can tank petaton bombardments without ill effect to be destroyed with the air pressure of their blows, the GEoM and Chaos Horus fighting didn't have much flashy collateral, but we won't claim that Lion and Luther are far more powerful than the GEoM and Horus

TL;DR: Lack of collateral isn't a valid argument against the power of an attack. J/cm^3 is a far more efficient method

It in when a series is based on massive collateral damage.

Gohan tanked (or stopped) most of the blast.

No, it's a series based on increases in power, speed, etc

Unless you believe that Cell is<Frieza because Cell never busted a planet himself

Or Super Buu<Kid Buu

Stealth your arguments are invalid lol goku durability isn't on Naruto level so end of discussion Naruto wins.

Frieza Dc>Cells DC
Cell Durability >Frieza durability

Overall cell should win.

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Stealth your arguments are invalid lol goku durability isn't on Naruto level so end of discussion Naruto wins.

Lol no.

Go read my post.

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Frieza Dc>Cells DC
Cell Durability >Frieza durability

Overall cell should win.

Lol

Frieza couldn't harm trunks. Android 18 bitched smacked trunks.

Originally posted by Werewolf582
Lol

Frieza couldn't harm trunks. Android 18 bitched smacked trunks.

Please re-read my given statement I just said CELL would win due to actual durability.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Fixed it for you

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Stealth your arguments are invalid lol goku durability isn't on Naruto level so end of discussion Naruto wins.

Yeah, love how you have no arguments just "It is because I say so"

Revolutionary debater in a nutshell, gents

Frieza Dc>Cells DC
Cell Durability >Frieza durability

You seriously arguing this shit in a verse where increases in energy generation is a ****ing thing?

Power levels refer to increases in every aspect, strength, speed, durability, DC, etc

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Goku hasn't busted a star nor is he star level stop with the bs trolling.

Buu busted a planet so violently that it was calced to be the equivalent of the GBE of a small star. Try again Nardotard

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Yeah, love how you have no arguments just "It is because I say so"

Revolutionary debater in a nutshell, gents

You seriously arguing this shit in a verse where increases in energy generation is a ****ing thing?

Power levels refer to increases in every aspect, strength, speed, durability, DC, etc

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Ranger just stfu dude your statements mean little here also THATS BUU MORON NOT GOKU please stop dbztard your logic is pathetic

Yeah it was, guess who Goku at the end of the series rivals *gasp* Yes, you guessed it

Hell, if you were to remove powerscaling, alot of characters (especially in anime/manga) would be inimpressive, including in your precious Nardo

Power levels DOESNT DETERMINE A CHARACTER STRENGTH like akira said power levels are just Random numbers for the fans please stfu you ain't a true dbz fan clearly by your lack of interviews he published about power levels.

The only thing you can argue is that power levels don't work in a linear fashion, which is not what I argued. What they do tell you however is what feats you get to powerscale off

Though you'd have to be a retard to miss how the entire series has constant power increases in every respect, or just have severe tunnel vision

I wasn't Powerscaling Naruto moron xD its facts shown where goku durability/DC sucks without dbztards like you power boosting him with misconceptions of Powers

Power levels = random numbers
Author literal statement >dbztards statements .

Please just stop dude you haven't even brought up any facts here only the fact you are a dbztard.

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
I wasn't Powerscaling Naruto moron xD its facts shown where goku durability/DC sucks without dbztards like you power boosting him with misconceptions of Powers

The same logic that could be pulled in any fiction

Also if he evenly matches/beats people on that level in terms of energy manipulation, well guess what happens

Power levels = random numbers
Author literal statement >dbztards statements .

"I don't like it so it doesn't count"

It's called a literary device, do try to keep up

Please just stop dude you haven't even brought up any facts here only the fact you are a dbztard.

Uh huh, sure whatever helps you sleep at night

Yeah Grade A debating, just make baseless assertions and ad hominem acting with a false sense of elitism

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Please re-read my given statement I just said CELL would win due to actual durability.

Are you just that stupid?

You said Frieza > cell in DC.

Frieza couldn't harm trunks. Andriod 18 phucked up trunks

Cell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andriod 18 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Frieza >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Naruto verse

Yet I can actually post the scans where you dbztards have no scan of goku even busting a planet nor showing any feats to even put him on that level you read the OBD profiles and say

"Oh its so correct." Where I debunked all the feats you little fanboys pull out.

Its ok bro you lost. 🙂

Originally posted by Werewolf582
Frieza also made that in a short amount of time with one finger in base form. That's better than any Naruto feat lol.

Lol, you mean the same Broly that destroy planets even as a teenager? Go ahead and try to use low feats though, I'm happy with knife level Naruto.

Broly destroyed stars on panel like a boss in the legit first minute of the movie. How is that irrelevant?

When did Naruto become moon level? Are you talking about that meteorite shit? That same meteorite that didn't show to be anywhere near moon size? And what do you mean Goku has no feats close to that? A severly weakened Goku in base form was pushing back a planet busting blast.

Watch @ 12:00
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-_jqHzbLraI

There's also the fact that Frieza with no ki, sliced in half, and near death tanked a planet exploding at point blank and was still alive. This same Frieza was sliced with ease from Trunks sword while it had no affect on Goku,

OMG are you stupid? Your trying to lowball with that? Lol, Goku was able to easily flip Gaint Piccolo.
According to the Super Exciting Guide and Daizenshuu Piccolo's base weight is 116kg and his size increased by 10 times.

According to the square cube law Piccolo's size and weight would grow in three dimensions so 116kg x 10 x 10 x 10 = 116,000kg (116 tons)

Half the crap that you type could be labeled as retarded.

How about you prove Naruto is moon level.

With that said I label you as half retarded. Stay salty.

This was at pym but you get the picture.

Originally posted by Werewolf582
Are you just that stupid?

You said Frieza > cell in DC.

Frieza couldn't harm trunks. Andriod 18 phucked up trunks

Cell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andriod 18 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Frieza >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Naruto verse

Also no cell gets killed by kaguya or any rinnegan user with soul removal.