Dragons in the Bible

Started by Stoic5 pages

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Humans didn't evolve from apes. Chimpanzees and humans diverged from a common ancestor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimpanzee%E2%80%93human_last_common_ancestor

Why haven't chimps changed? You don't seem to understand what I was saying. None of the primates changed over time. They have remained the same as they were then all the way up til this day. In another 10,000 yrs chimps will still be the same as they were 10,000 yrs ago.

Originally posted by Stoic
Why haven't chimps changed? You don't seem to understand what I was saying. None of the primates changed over time. They have remained the same as they were then all the way up til this day. In another 10,000 yrs chimps will still be the same as they were 10,000 yrs ago.

A chimpanzee is a modern animal. The animal they evolve from and into will not be a chimpanzee.
I understand what you are saying and you absolutely wrong. You can disbelieve the fact of evolution all you like. You can even disbelieve gravity for all I care, but when you are talking about evolution, please get it right. Otherwise it makes you look ignorant.

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Originally posted by Stoic
Does bacteria evolve, or adapt?

They evolve and adapt. Different things.

Originally posted by Stoic
Why are apes still apes? They have been here for a very long time, and nothing has changed in them, nor should we expect that in 10,000 years from now that they would change based on what we see today.

Lots of things have changed in several races of apes, as some other posters said by now, chimps have ancestors themselves which weren't chimps. If you go by other animals, the Polar Bear came to be while the modern human already existed, species are still evolving to this day.

A never ending process...

Originally posted by riv6672
A never ending process...

Well, until the sun turns into a red-giant. 😉

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Well, until the sun turns into a red-giant. 😉

Prove that the process would then stop forever biscuits

Originally posted by Bentley
Prove that the process would then stop forever biscuits

It depends. If life can escape Earth, then it will go on. But forever? Far into the future, all of the atoms that make up life will decay, and the universe will ether die a cold death, be ripped apart by by dark energy, or collapse back onto itself in a big crunch. But then there could be a quantum fluctuation somewhere and a new universe could be born.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It depends. If life can escape Earth, then it will go on. But forever? Far into the future, all of the atoms that make up life will decay, and the universe will ether die a cold death, be ripped apart by by dark energy, or collapse back onto itself in a big crunch. But then there could be a quantum fluctuation somewhere and a new universe could be born.

There is life in asteroids so life doesn't need to escape Earth. Also, you're talking about a point I didn't make -about evolution lasting forever-, I was just nitpicking your Sun going giant red phrase for the kicks.

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Originally posted by Bentley
There is life in asteroids so life doesn't need to escape Earth. Also, you're talking about a point I didn't make -about evolution lasting forever-, I was just nitpicking your Sun going giant red phrase for the kicks.

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WE have not found any life in asteroids yet. 😛

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
WE have not found any life in asteroids yet. 😛

There you go:

Dayum, Shakya just got deBUKED

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Well, until the sun turns into a red-giant. 😉

Thankfully this little fella got off planet to carry DNA (its own and the humans who worked on Sputnik) to the stars!

Originally posted by Bentley
There you go:

Technically, that could be a dwarf planet, like Ceres (and now, Pluto). Since the body is spherical, this means it's large enough (minimally 500-600 miles in diameter) to achieve hydrostatic equilibrium, ie, its gravity is strong enough to compress it into a sphere. Asteroids don't do that: they're not that big. If they are that large (and round), they're considered dwarf planets (like Ceres).

As for the person atop it: that is obviously a 275-mile-high, alien construct meant to shake us up, as are the decorative, silicon-based plants and baking-soda volcanoes.

Or, if we apply Occam's razor, the body is only about five meters in diameter and it only has the appearance of being a sphere from one side.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Or, if we apply Occam's razor, the body is only about five meters in diameter and it only has the appearance of being a sphere from one side.
Ah, like a cylinder. Sheer genius.

Originally posted by Bentley
They evolve and adapt. Different things.

Lots of things have changed in several races of apes, as some other posters said by now, chimps have ancestors themselves which weren't chimps. If you go by other animals, the Polar Bear came to be while the modern human already existed, species are still evolving to this day.

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Maybe I've not gotten enough sleep, but it seems to be harder for me to understand you than normal this morning.

Are you familiar with the term "micro"evolution?
From what I've learned since 2008, Creationists don't reject what is often termed "micro"evolution.

The industrial revolution/pepper moth example would be called "micro"evolution, for instance. Creationists wouldn't consider that true evolution anymore than they would consider a dog breeder to be "evolving" dogs.

If you consider that a Polar bear micro evolutioned his way into existence by essentially breed selecting itself that's fine I guess.

Then human just microevolutioned his way into pre-human, hence evolution is debunked.

Originally posted by Bentley
If you consider that a Polar bear micro evolutioned his way into existence by essentially breed selecting itself that's fine I guess.

Then human just microevolutioned his way into pre-human, hence evolution is debunked.

What? Micro-evolution is just evolution.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What? Micro-evolution is just evolution.

Some people have a divide-to-understand mentality. Since evolution isn't allowed to exist, then something by other name must be it's referral. I've noticed this kind of reasoning several times, feel free to PM me to elaborate.