As for the Rogen thing, I think people are distorting his comment. He's not saying that Chris Kyle was like a Nazi or that the US Army is a fascist organization, he's saying that it's a little offputting that people are so uncritically accepting him as a heroic figure and are almost glorifying the fact that he claimed to kill dozens of people. I do venerate famous soldiers in history for their heroism, but at the same time I can't ever get past how horrible it must be to kill other people, regardless of context.
I haven't seen the movie, so I can't comment on how it treats the subject of war, but from the audience response, and from the criticism aimed at Rogen for a not-particularly anti-military tweet, it seems like it's serving as a war propaganda piece, if perhaps unintentionally, and we should always be on guard against war propaganda in any form.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I haven't seen the movie, so I can't comment on how it treats the subject of war, but from the audience response, and from the criticism aimed at Rogen for a not-particularly anti-military tweet, it seems like it's serving as a war propaganda piece, if perhaps unintentionally, and we should always be on guard against war propaganda in any form.
Did you read my post on the film?
Basically, it does a great job of showing both sides. It shows how douchy/assholish the US Solidiers were and how poorly they treated the Iraqi people. It also showed how disgusting some of the Iraqi insurgents treated their own people (and Coalition Forces/US Soldiers).
Where it gets propogandy is at the very end and it basically turns into a Chris Kyle tribute montage. I'm okay with that because the f*cking movie is really about Chris Kyle, the American Sniper, lol!
Cooper's acting is superb at parts. Ridiculously well-done. I bet you he hung out with real veterans that had PTSD because he seemed to capture a bit too well. He may get nominated or win an academy award for it.
Haven't heard much criticisms about it being too 'murica **** yah, but I have heard rumblings that many of the incidences Kyle wrote about in the book, which subsequently were adapted into the film, were either embellished by him or straight up didn't actually happen. I've also heard that Kyle was a bit of a shithead/psychotic monster and the movie portrayed him more sympathetically than his real persona deserved (ala Captain Philips, who in real life was apparently a bit of an ******* and didn't give a **** about the lives of his crew).
Dunno how accurate those criticisms are, but.
Film portrayed him as a man obsessed with what he saw as his duty and you definitely felt sympathy for the him at times.
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Spoiler:
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-When he's forced to kill a very young child
-When he comes back to the US for some leave and he can't
cope being a family-man because all he can think of is his fellow soldiers dying back in Iraq
-When his resolve finally cracks in Iraq after he's had enough
-When he calls his wife while in the states and has an emotional breakdown
Can't recall more off the top of my head
I imagine the film wouldn't have been giving the okay if the script portrayed the "American hero" as being a psychotic *******, regardless of truth.
Originally posted by RobtardThis movie sounds pretty cliche.
Film portrayed him as a man obsessed with what he saw as his duty and you definitely felt sympathy for the him at times.*
Spoiler:
:
-When he's forced to kill a very young child
-When he comes back to the US for some leave and he can't
cope being a family-man because all he can think of is his fellow soldiers dying back in Iraq
-When his resolve finally cracks in Iraq after he's had enough
-When he calls his wife while in the states and has an emotional breakdownCan't recall more off the top of my head
I imagine the film wouldn't have been giving the okay if the script portrayed the "American hero" as being a psychotic *******, regardless of truth.
Is it actually worth watching?
Originally posted by Quincy
Nah dude he said it reminded him of the fake movie in inglorious basterds. About a sniper shooting down enemy soldiers and the audience cheering along
Well I guess Seth hasn't seen the movie then. I was certainly not cheering along when Chris had to shoot a mother and her son, and Chris wasn't cheering either. People seem to think this movie is like Act Of Valor when it is really a tragic story about a guy with enormous PTSD. If anything, it's similar to The Hurt Locker in the way it shows the despair of the Iraq War.
Re: Michael Moore calls snipers "cowards"
Originally posted by Impediment
http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/19/entertainment/feat-michael-moore-sniper-tweet-feat/Conveniently after the release of American Sniper, too.
What a piece of shit. I hope this guy dies a horrible, fiery death.
Thoughts?
As long as he is obese, he will either die of cancer, heart attack or brain stroke. Or from diabetes, losing one toe and finger at a time, then maybe a foot or hand, then leg and arm and eyesight. So, in the final analysis, he just might have a horrible painful death.