Quinlan Vos, Tholme & Aayla Secura vs. Obi-Wan Kenobi & Ahsoka Tano

Started by |King Joker|2 pages

Quinlan Vos, Tholme & Aayla Secura vs. Obi-Wan Kenobi & Ahsoka Tano

All in their respective primes.

Ahsoka and Obi-Wan confront Quinlan, Tholme, and Aayla in the forests of Kashyyyk. Which team defeats the other? All combatants are focused and ready to kill.

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Why for both?

Everyone on team one is better than Ahsoka. She dies first, then Kenobi dies in a 3v1.

I don't really feel like Aayla is superior to Ahsoka to such a degree that it wouldn't take a pretty decent amount of time taking her down.

Any more folks gonna post and explain their feckin' positions or nah?

I think Ahsoka could hold off Tholme and Kenobi could take the other two.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
I don't really feel like Aayla is superior to Ahsoka to such a degree that it wouldn't take a pretty decent amount of time taking her down.

Any more folks gonna post and explain their feckin' positions or nah?

I could say the same for a Quinlan and Aayla or Tholme combination in a fight with Kenobi. Personally I see whatever duo that squares off against Kenobi as lasting longer than Ahsoka regardless of who she fights.

I'm also dubious if Kenobi really could defeat Vos and another member of his team in a 2v1.

Originally posted by ILS
I could say the same for a Quinlan and Aayla or Tholme combination in a fight with Kenobi. Personally I see whatever duo that squares off against Kenobi as lasting longer than Ahsoka regardless of who she fights.
Yeah, it really just depends on that. Either way I feel both versions of the fight scenarios being relatively prolonged.

If Kenobi can use Jar'Kai then I see him outright beating any combination of team 1 with some difficulty, with a single saber he could take them down with difficulty. Ahsoka would most likely beat or at the very least give Aayla a fight.

Beating Aurra Sing and fighting evenly with Quinlan Vos is better than anything Ahsoka has done. She isn't beating Aayla.

Better than fighting Grevious? Aurra and Vos are powerful no doubt, but didn't Vos.hold back tremendously in that fight? And the fight with Aurra was ending in stalemate until Aayla started taunting her about Dark Woman which then gave her the win because Aurra got reckless.

Is the fight where "Aayla fought evenly with Vos" the fight where he was ragdolling her all over that swamp?

I thought he meant the fight where she was being controlled by Volfe.

Better than running away from Grievous, yes. And no, he was actually willing to kill her in that fight. He made note of that prior to and after the fight several times. And there is absolutely nothing indicating that Aurra became reckless during that fight, resulting in her loss - in fact, Aayla made an effort to talk down Aurra even while fighting her. Aurra pretended to ponder the possibility of stopping the fight, and then attacked Aayla out of nowhere, even landing a blow on her. That's a demonstration of cunning, not recklessness. After that, Aayla won.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Is the fight where "Aayla fought evenly with Vos" the fight where he was ragdolling her all over that swamp?
Yeah, they dueled evenly prior to Vos abusing TK.

The aurra sing and aayla databanks say otherwise.

When Aurra was hired to assassinate a Senator on Devaron, a team of Jedi was sent to investigate. Among them, the Dark Woman. Aurra sprang a trap on her former master, pinning the Dark Woman and the Jedi Master Tholme in a cave explosion. The remaining Jedi, Aayla Secura, tracked down Aurra and confronted her. What followed was a fierce duel between the two women. The fight was nearly a draw, until Aayla goaded Aurra, piercing through her icy façade to describe the wounded, lonely, abandoned child within. Aurra attacked ferociously, but Aayla bested her.True to her Jedi heritage, Aayla did not needlessly take Aurra's life. She instead scarred her with her blade, and severed the Rhen-Orm biocomputer antenna. Stunned, Aurra was easily taken into custody, and sent to the prisons of Oovo IV.
- Databanks(Aurra Sing)

I don't find beating Aurra to be more impressive than Ahsoka's performance against Grievous.

Though, it should be noted that Aurra is honestly so inconsistent. In some works, she can challenge Darth Caedus and the Jinn/Kenobi duo. In others, she gets stomped by Adi Gallia and is almost killed by a tap of Darth Vader's fingers.

Indeed. Though, I suppose you could rationalize Aurra's performance against Caedus to improvement over time, I guess.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
The aurra sing and aayla databanks say otherwise.

When Aurra was hired to assassinate a Senator on Devaron, a team of Jedi was sent to investigate. Among them, the Dark Woman. Aurra sprang a trap on her former master, pinning the Dark Woman and the Jedi Master Tholme in a cave explosion. The remaining Jedi, Aayla Secura, tracked down Aurra and confronted her. What followed was a fierce duel between the two women. The fight was nearly a draw, until Aayla goaded Aurra, piercing through her icy façade to describe the wounded, lonely, abandoned child within. Aurra attacked ferociously, but Aayla bested her.True to her Jedi heritage, Aayla did not needlessly take Aurra's life. She instead scarred her with her blade, and severed the Rhen-Orm biocomputer antenna. Stunned, Aurra was easily taken into custody, and sent to the prisons of Oovo IV.
- Databanks(Aurra Sing)

That said nothing about Aurra fighting recklessly and losing because of that.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
I don't find beating Aurra to be more impressive than Ahsoka's performance against Grievous.

Though, it should be noted that Aurra is honestly so inconsistent. In some works, she can challenge Darth Caedus and the Jinn/Kenobi duo. In others, she gets stomped by Adi Gallia and is almost killed by a tap of Darth Vader's fingers.

All Ahsoka does is run away from Grievous, though. I don't see that as a better showing of skill than meeting your near-equal in combat and then besting them in a hard-fought duel.

What were the circumstances behind all of those encounters, though? That could probably explain why she's apparently inconsistent. IIRC Adi Gallia took her out with a boulder. Being destroyed by Vader isn't necessarily inconsistent, maybe Vader is just that good? But if she did actually contend with Caedus, without circumstance, then she is definitely inconsistent.

Her challenging the Jinn/Kenobi duo wasn't too far-fetched after reading it. It wasn't like she was replicating Darth Maul's showing against them. She did well but the fight was pretty short.