Revan runs the PT gauntlet

Started by Revanchiste4 pages
Originally posted by Board Walker
Revan rains meteors down upon them and blows up the planet

I don't know if 3.0 Revan is clever or powerfull enough to do so.And it's really depend of the terran.....

The original one can on a world as korriban Geonosis etc...I know than he is carefull enough to don't kill himself.....

Dooku while being a good duelist, is as the same level as Katarn....

Revan have battlefield experience and sparing with Traya, Are Kae and multiple Jedi masters....

I don't really take the chosen one as canon... This is near fan fiction, acceptable, but if Anakin defeat a One, that's not by his skill or power....

Anakin only deafeat Dooku because Dooku wanted to test his new skills !
He could have ragdolls him like he did with obiwan...This was Doku arrogance and overselfestime that bring him down....

Based on this Revan wreck anakin....

I hate 3.0 Revan......

Originally posted by Revanchiste I don't really take the chosen one as canon... This is near fan fiction, acceptable, but if Anakin defeat a One, that's not by his skill or power....[/B]

He was only able to do it on Mortis which as a celestial monolith is pretty much the most powerful force nexus known. Outside of Mortis, a celestial would trash him.

P.S. If anyone is going to challenge this please consider the ramifications first.

If Anakin can enter "the zone" while fighting Revan he wins.

Anakin didn't defeat Dooku because Dooku was testing his skills, whatever that means. He beat Dooku because he was better than him. Zone bs aside, Dooku was losing the fight early on.

Originally posted by zEniX
He was only able to do it on Mortis which as a celestial monolith is pretty much the most powerful force nexus known. Outside of Mortis, a celestial would trash him.

P.S. If anyone is going to challenge this please consider the ramifications first.


While that may be true, you do realize the Ones were kind of, also using Mortis? The ramification of what? A tidal wave of quotes and opinions? Been there, done that.

Anyway, they'd trash him even while he's on Mortis most of the time. Good thing Revan isn't a Celestial, despite some of the hype he's received here lately.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice

While that may be true, you do realize the Ones were kind of, also using Mortis? The ramification of what? A tidal wave of quotes and opinions? Been there, done that.

The Ones were actually the cause of the nexuses as illustrated by the separate light and dark environments. Very similar to Abeloth's planet being so twisted and strong in the dark side because of her presence. Basically Anakin used the one's own power against them. He could however draw on both the nexuses unlike Sister or Brother, not to mention whatever nexus the father created. hence he could over power them. Oneness in this instance means he was able to use all of the nexuses which far far surpassed his own full potential.

Originally posted by zEniX
[B]The Ones were actually the cause of the nexuses as illustrated by the separate light and dark environments. [/B]

That doesn't make any sense. Doesn't really support your claim.
Very similar to Abeloth's planet being so twisted and strong in the dark side because of her presence. Basically Anakin used the one's own power against them. He could however draw on both the nexuses unlike Sister or Brother, not to mention whatever nexus the father created.

He drew on none of them, but on Mortis itself, which a completely different source of power. One the Ones draw on.
hence he could over power them. Oneness in this instance means he was able to use all of the nexuses which far far surpassed his own full potential.

There is not a single source backing up anything you just said. Anakin was created as a contemporary to Father. To be able to hold the Son and Daughter in check indefinitely would require that. Oneness may have helped him hold them in check at his current level, but nothing supports he'd always require it.

First: Powerful force beings create force nexuses. Sidious at Byss, Abeloth on her planet, Plagieus at on Muunilinst etc.

Second: Obi Wan says that Mortis is "a force intersection unlike any he has felt before." Note the word intersection. Intersection of what? Force nexuses, that's what.

Third: The Ones had their powers on Abeloth's planet which is obviously not Mortis.

Forth: The father states that the Ones could manipulate the force like no other and that's why they withdrew. The ones don't need any power source other than themselves, period.

Fifth: We are given a rough indication of the Father's power by Abeloth. Abeloth is stated to have 12x Luke's power. GL has stated Luke's force potential = Anakin's. More to the point, neither Anakin or Luke ever ever come close to that kind of power outside of Celestial monoliths.

Sixth: Obi Wan tells Anakin the planet is the force and to use it right before Anakin over powers both Son and Daughter.

Without Mortis to draw on Anakin isn't even close to the power level of the Ones. If the Son and Daughter were drawing on Mortis in the same way Anakin was HE COULD NOT HAVE OVER POWERED THEM. As a result of this and other evidence Mortis clearly is not the Ones power source. Much more likely, its power is a result of their presence for 100,000 years or so. Obi Wan just arrived on the planet and is a very unreliable source to determine "what gives Mortis it's power."

I can see Revan just TKing Maul and Savage and taking them out without much trouble. If they get near him though, he would have to fight hard to defeat them.

Going with the first scenario; he won't be exhausted when he faces Anakin and Kenobi and these two don't impress me at al when fighting as a teaml tbh.

Just like Dooku, he could easily get rid of Kenobi and turn this into a 1on1 where he would be victorious imo and 2 hours is enough time for Revan to rest before facing a foe like Dooku who he would defeat as well.

Then again, this is a weird gauntlet and he might very well fall at the second round instead of making it to round 4(where he doesn't stand a chance)

Ya know, if powerful beings create Nexuses, why is it Sidious can create a Dark Side Nexus on Byss, but Luke never has a constant Light Side Nexus around him?

Maybe it's just a Dark Sider thing. Yoda never creates his own Nexus either.

Ya I've wondered that as well. Plagueis said something about Coruscant not being strong in the light because of the baseness of the populace or something to that effect. I need to look this up :/ As for Yoda, he was actually at a dark side nexus to mask his presence from the emperor on Dagobah. That being said though, you would think we would have run into a few more light side nexuses by now.

Originally posted by Angelalex242
Ya know, if powerful beings create Nexuses, why is it Sidious can create a Dark Side Nexus on Byss, but Luke never has a constant Light Side Nexus around him?

Maybe it's just a Dark Sider thing. Yoda never creates his own Nexus either.

Pretty sure Luke tries to actively suppress his own power or at least avoid drawing on it that much. So that might be it. He and Mara had some revelation that massive force use was bad in some way or something.

Revan also creat Dark side enxus... Just by.. Being here !!!

And Kreia/Bastilia in her holocron told us than Revan have the power of creating nexus able to turn hundreds of Jedi and this is a technic than he learn during the mandalorian war at malachor V !!!
Vitiate and palpa are Dark side nexus on there own !!!

Sonot really impressiv....

Quote for Vitiate being a "dark side nexus"?

I will find it it will take me timebut the sin the madness of this man... Make him a Dark Side enxus....

Originally posted by Kotor3
Dooku is a superior duelist based on? If you were to say he was more skilled than Revan with a saber then ok but a superior duelist, I disagree. Revan is definitely more experience in saber combat. So, I do not see how Dooku is the superior duelist.

Dooku has better feats in dueling that Revan. He is also more skilled, yes.
Originally posted by Kotor3
You use Dooku as a way to show Anakin’s level of power and skill as of ROTS. I use Vitiate and strike teams as an example of showing the level of power needed to put Revan down.

Better tactic for you would be to do the opposite tbh.
Originally posted by Kotor3
Are you saying that Anakin is more powerful than anyone Revan face? What sith lords you are you referring to that Anakin face that are more powerful than Vitiate?

No, I'm saying that ROTS Anakin is good enough to win against Revan.

Anakin showed himself to be able to absolutely trash Dooku in 1v1,
My contention is that Anakin can also win agaist Revan, especially given the favorable conditions of the fight.

As per the OP Anakin fights Revan with Kenobi on his side and immediately after Revan faces Maul and Savage.

The odds are stacked against Revan, no matter how you look at it.

BTW Sith Lords more powerful and/or more capable than Vitiate: From the top of my head: Sidious, Plagueis, Caedus...

Originally posted by Kotor3
As for you last comments, I disagree. Also it is obvious that Anakin was not the most powerful Jedi of his generation or any. Potential that he never realized does not count. According to GL the only ones capable of facing Sidious during that generation was Yoda or Mace. Two Jedi superior to Anakin.

I place ROTS Anakin just below Yoda/Sidious. He lacks mastery and self-discipline in comparison to them, but he has power, skill and durability in abundance.

Windu was potrayed in numerous sources as more or less equal to the good Count.
Windu with Vaapad and shatterpoint is able to contend wiht Sidious, yes.

Anakin was not able to contend, as he was already manipulated by Sidious and was no threat to him. As of RotS Anakin's one step away from becoming a Sith Lord himself, mind you.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Anakin didn't defeat Dooku because Dooku was testing his skills, whatever that means. He beat Dooku because he was better than him. Zone bs aside, Dooku was losing the fight early on.

No, Dooku was winning at the beggining of the fight. He started loosing, when he provoked Anakin to use his dark side.

3.0 I don't know.. This guy havenothing compare to the true Darth Revan..

But for the original Darth Revan etrieve Tulak Hord Holocron, the one about the light saber technic.. That's what Kreia say so....
Humhum....

"No, Dooku was winning at the beggining of the fight. He started loosing, when he provoked Anakin to use his dark side."

That's similar.... In fact he test his skill before tenting him to the Dark side..To satisfied Sidious...

Originally posted by Stigma
Dooku has better feats in dueling that Revan. He is also more skilled, yes.

Better tactic for you would be to do the opposite tbh.

No, I'm saying that ROTS Anakin is good enough to win against Revan.

Anakin showed himself to be able to absolutely trash Dooku in 1v1,
My contention is that Anakin can also win agaist Revan, especially given the favorable conditions of the fight.

As per the OP Anakin fights Revan with Kenobi on his side and immediately after Revan faces Maul and Savage.

The odds are stacked against Revan, no matter how you look at it.

BTW Sith Lords more powerful and/or more capable than Vitiate: From the top of my head: Sidious, Plagueis, Caedus...

I place ROTS Anakin just below Yoda/Sidious. He lacks mastery and self-discipline in comparison to them, but he has power, skill and durability in abundance.

Windu was potrayed in numerous sources as more or less equal to the good Count.
Windu with Vaapad and shatterpoint is able to contend wiht Sidious, yes.

Anakin was not able to contend, as he was already manipulated by Sidious and was no threat to him. As of RotS Anakin's one step away from becoming a Sith Lord himself, mind you.


Ok. I see why you feel the way you do but I do not agree. I guess it is where you place Revan in power. I do not see the Maul brothers as a serious threat to Revan. Neither the combo of Obi wan and Anakin. *(I say Obi wan and Anakin because their showing together have been nothing but horrible. By ROTS the combo of Anakin and Obi wan should have been a stomping on Dooku, instead it wasn’t.)

As for Anakin, the movie portrays Obi wan and Anakin as almost equals (something I fought to be ridiculous). Mace is obvious Obi wan superior in the movie ROTS and Anakin.

Revan is much more dangerous with the force than Dooku is, something the Maul bothers nor Obi wan and Anakin have shown to be good against.

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The fact, that Kenobi was able to fought Anakin equally doesn't mean, that he will be able to fight equally with Dooku or Windu.
And the fact, that those two were Kenobi's superiors, doesn't mean that they were Anakin's superiors as well.

Originally posted by McP
No, Dooku was winning at the beggining of the fight. He started loosing, when he provoked Anakin to use his dark side.

No he wasn't. Both Anakin and Kenobi began to outclass Dooku in sabers. The novel goes as far as to say each strike from Anakin required twice as much energy as it did to ragdoll Kenobi to block. Dooku was outclassed in every way by the end. The "zone" was just icing on the cake.