In terms of the gauntlet order, I would have it progressing more like this personally:
Ventress
Kenobi
Maul
Grievous
Ventress has the weakest physicals and less versatile fighting style out of the four. Kenobi is slightly better than Ventress physically and makes better use of his surroundings. Maul has the two of them beat in physicality and rivals Kenobi in fight-tactics. And Grievous has them all beat in physicality noticeably, and is a more versatile and unpredictable threat.
Bane loses to any of those four.
If we could keep the Bane bashing out of this please, that would be great.
Originally posted by ILS
In terms of the gauntlet order, I would have it progressing more like this personally:Ventress
Kenobi
Maul
GrievousVentress has the weakest physicals and less versatile fighting style out of the four. Kenobi is slightly better than Ventress physically and makes better use of his surroundings. Maul has the two of them beat in physicality and rivals Kenobi in fight-tactics. And Grievous has them all beat in physicality noticeably, and is a more versatile and unpredictable threat.
Bane loses to any of those four.
You think Grievous is the best duelist out if those 4? Lolwut? Did you not watch RotS?
Originally posted by NephthysI have the four of them equal in raw lightsaber skill - Grievous has the best physicals, and has a more unpredictable and versatile fighting style. So he gets the slight edge overall.
You think Grievous is the best duelist out if those 4? Lolwut? Did you not watch RotS?
Kenobi beat Grievous due to having a very large form advantage.
Originally posted by ILS
I have the four of them equal in raw lightsaber skill - Grievous has the best physicals, and has a more unpredictable and versatile fighting style. So he gets the slight edge overall.Kenobi beat Grievous due to having a very large form advantage.
He also lacks the Force. Maul is overall a better duelist than Grievous and so is Kenobi. Ventress also beat him, though I'm sure everyone will call this a nexus feat. His physical stats aren't that important when even Ahsoka can amp herself with the Force to be stronger than him and everyone else can use the force to predict his attacks, block them and cut off his hands ala Kenobi.
Really considering Kenobi has beaten all of them straight up he should be considered the best out of them.
Originally posted by Nephthys1. His lacking Force senses, clairvoyance, foresight ect honestly isn't outweighed by his physical capabilities. He's noticeably stronger, faster and more durable than all of them. His mental processing capabilities that allow him to adapt to individual fighters on the fly is also useful.
He also lacks the Force. Maul is overall a better duelist than Grievous and so is Kenobi. Ventress also beat him, though I'm sure everyone will call this a nexus feat. His physical stats aren't that important when even Ahsoka can amp herself with the Force to be stronger than him and everyone else can use the force to predict his attacks, block them and cut off his hands ala Kenobi.Really considering Kenobi has beaten all of them straight up he should be considered the best out of them.
2. Source for Kenobi and Maul having better dueling feats than Grievous?
3. Nexus feat.
4. Lol @ attempt at Ahsoka lowballing. I guess Ahsoka is capable of everything in Grievous's respect thread listed under strength, huh?
5. Precog wasn't why Kenobi was able to do that - if it was every opponent from Mace Windu to Shaak Ti would be dismembering Grievous in their fights with him. It was Kenobi's unrivaled mastery of Soresu.
6. Kenobi has never "beaten" Maul, I don't recall him beating Ventress conclusively 1v1 either. He's traded ups and downs with the latter anyway. Maul has "beaten" Kenobi during TCW, for the record, although unlike you I'm able to recognize the specific context behind that encounter, which was that Maul and Obi-Wan were fighting evenly until Kenobi succumbed to Dun Moch, leading to Maul's win. Kenobi's emotional control improves after that fight, and he and Maul fought evenly on Florrum aside from the cave fight, which was, again, circumstantial, and also can't even be considered a loss on Maul's part but rather Savage's.
You're honestly just rehashing the same dead arguments against Grievous at this point.