List of anime characters who can defeat my team? (individually)

Originally posted by trexalfa
Yeah, we could wait more. I'm just making the most likely picture out of all the evidence we currently have, which is basically the best picture of it I can create. Those feats you mentioned, I guess you were talking about the "Adult" Units? The Child Units, or Cosmic Cubes, are easily universe busters. Really powerful, but a mook Celestial can dish out far more power than they can.

Found the statement Digi made concerning how it makes sense (sortof)

Originally posted by Digi
Breevort's a hero for that answer. You do realize that he has an incredibly delicate balance to manage, yeah? He has to defend those he works with, the company he works for, but answer fans in a way that will appease the harsher elements of the fandom. Or rather, the more casual elements of the fandom. Because the fans calling him a **** on internet forums are rarely going to be appeased on anything long-term, and they're the least of his concerns. We're not the demographic. We're the ones who are following this stuff regardless. Breevort's only worried about not f*cking up the answer to create a bigger sh*tstorm, and making sure he's doing nothing to upset the bottom line (money) which, let's be honest, is primarily targeted at the 16-year-old kid who recently watched the Thor films, and just got to see his hero die heroically against legions of abstract beings. F*ck power levels, that kid just went to bed last night dreaming of taking on a thousand Beyonders in glorious battle.

No I'm talking about the Cubes, the child units are Cubes that have become sentient (sorry for the confusion), and in the process have imposed limits on themselves. Hence the likes of Kubik, a sentient cube is far below a Celestial, while a Cube has potential to be far above a Celestials. But it doesn't become easier because Marvel is operating with different levels of Omnipotence.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Found the statement Digi made concerning how it makes sense (sortof)

No I'm talking about the Cubes, the child units are Cubes that have become sentient (sorry for the confusion), and in the process have imposed limits on themselves. Hence the likes of Kubik, a sentient cube is far below a Celestial, while a Cube has potential to be far above a Celestials. But it doesn't become easier because Marvel is operating with different levels of Omnipotence.

Ah, that. Sorry, I will check that in the pertaining comic just to refresh my memory. It's a bit rusty 😛

I would say that Marvel's cosmic scale works with different levels of infinity , which are actually a thing in math, not of omnipotence (which should be an absolute anyway).

So when is 5L going to post a feat of the Trueforce on par with one of PR Beyonder's?

I lol'd at his silly ass posting Beyonder saying he doesn't think he can remake death, entirely ignorant of the fact that he goes ahead and does that, btw.

Beyonder easily destroys the entire Zeldaverse. 👆

K someone tell a mod to lick this? Clearly PR Beyonder is omnipotent.

Originally posted by trexalfa
Seeing how basically an infinite number of them was required to kill the Living Tribunal, a finite number of them losing doesn't seem strange at all. We also don't know how many of them it took to kill the Celestials and the Abstracts.

Just hope BeyonderGod doesn't pull the "Pre-Retcon Beyonder was a Beyonder Child Unit" statement 😕

About Pre Retcon Beyonder being at the top despite being basically equal or weaker than HOTU Thanos, this was a spite thread from the very start. He didn't expect anything to beat his avatar, after all.

PR Beyonder by Jim Starlin is omnipotent so this should be locked.

Originally posted by Utrigita
I would hold back on anything about the Beyonders, simply because we don't know enough about them yet. We have seen the Beyonders fight and defeat the Asbstracts and not a issue later they are losing to Thor and Hyperion... So lets wait and see how the event plays out before beginning to use them. Atleast that is my opinion.

Stick to Pre Retcon Beyonder (Imo one of the strongest on the list and for some reason placed at the top)

Originally posted by LLLLLink
How about a universe-creating feat by Nayru, a mere 3rd of the True Force's essence?

https://youtu.be/r4tHItL1xLs

0:58. Nayru's farts creating physics, space, the sun, etc.

The Preparation H is in the medicine cabinet.

That's a planetary feat at most between all 3 goddesses. The video shows nor says anything about space, the sun, or physics. There's a line about "giving law to the world", but considering it also says how living beings were created to uphold said law, I very much doubt that refers to the laws of physics.

In fact, the narration implies that Hyrule existed before the goddesses even came along: "There golden goddesses descended upon the chaos that was Hyrule".

Coming in to dispel some misconceptions. Then I'm out. I care not for this nonsense and Zelda shouldn't even be in this thread. With that said:

The goddesses are above planetary. They can definitely not be proven to be on the level of the ****ing Beyonder, though, lol.

"When Hyrule was created by the three goddesses at the beginning of time, there were certain side effects of its creation which Din, Nayru and Farore did not anticipate. As the three holy women breathed life into the world and chased away Emptiness, their potent breath slipped through tiny cracks in the folds of space and created millions of alternate worlds in the process."

This proves that they are not, for example, omniscient, as they did this by accident.

The Triforce is also explicitly beneath their power, as per some Japanese translation I don't have the link to right now, but it does passively sustain the Zeldaverse. The prime one, alternate realities seem to have their own triforce, unless they're tied to the main reality in which case they're sustained by the main triforce.

Zelda cosmology is ****ing strange, is what I'm saying.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

"When Hyrule was created by the three goddesses at the beginning of time, there were certain side effects of its creation which Din, Nayru and Farore did not anticipate. As the three holy women breathed life into the world and chased away Emptiness, their potent breath slipped through tiny cracks in the folds of space and created millions of alternate worlds in the process."

Gonna have to ask you to show me what game you found this in. I suspect there is none.

As for the Triforce being beneath their power, I'm going to say that it is greater than the sum of its parts.

Triforce claims to be omnipotent and omniscient. Beyonder claims to be so, then shoots himself in the foot.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Gonna have to ask you to show me what game you found this in. I suspect there is none.

As for the Triforce being beneath their power, I'm going to say that it is greater than the sum of its parts.

Triforce claims to be omnipotent and omniscient. Beyonder claims to be so, then shoots himself in the foot.

"The Triforce itself cannot judge between good and evil. That is because only the gods can do that."

http://www.zeldalegends.net/files/text/z3translation/z3_manual_story.html Japanese translation of the aLttP manual.

The Triforce cannot do things the Goddesses can. The Triforce, therefore, is not their equal.

Zelda is not an anime.

The Triforce is not powerful enough to compete with Beyonder or the like.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
claims

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
http://zelda.com 🙂 Click encyclopedia, and check the definition for "Temina". What I posted is the quote verbatim.

"The Triforce itself cannot judge between good and evil. That is because only the gods can do that."

http://www.zeldalegends.net/files/text/z3translation/z3_manual_story.html Japanese translation of the aLttP manual.

The Triforce cannot do things the Goddesses can. The Triforce, therefore, is not their equal.

Zelda is not an anime.

The Triforce is not powerful enough to compete with Beyonder or the like.

Oh yeah, is that the one with the 2 japanese translations and then the Ameri-whore one? I think I have that saved somewhere.

I'm going to argue semantics on this one, Scream. Focusing on the word 'cannot'. I say that it's no different than saying TOAA "cannot" be weaker than Spiderman. In both instances, what the phrase is really saying is that the subjects chooses not to judge, or not to be weaker.
This is a common thing to see if you roll in the religion debates.

So to that end, I still disagree with you. Valiant effort, though.

Originally posted by NemeBro
lol

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Oh yeah, is that the one with the 2 japanese translations and then the Ameri-whore one? I think I have that saved somewhere.

I'm going to argue semantics on this one, Scream. Focusing on the word 'cannot'. I say that it's no different than saying TOAA "cannot" be weaker than Spiderman. In both instances, what the phrase is really saying is that the subjects chooses not to judge, or not to be weaker.
This is a common thing to see if you roll in the religion debates.

So to that end, I still disagree with you. Valiant effort, though.

It honestly surprises me people still try to argue with me about Zelda canon, as if I have a life or something and haven't studied this shit extensively instead of doing something productive.

And again, Zelda is still not an anime, and still does not belong in this thread.

"Can not" is the opposite of "can", which means "be able to". If the Triforce could judge between good and evil then it would be wrong to said it "cannot" (only retards write "can not" as one word by the way).

If the quote said "The Triforce itself WILL NOT", then that would leave the quote open to the interpretation that it is capable of doing so, but chooses not to.

The current quote leaves nothing open to interpretation.

Also, when you typed,"In both instances, what the phrase is really saying is that the subjects chooses not to judge, or not to be weaker", you incorrectly used "chooses" here. "Chooses" should only be used when there is a singular subject. With multiple subjects "choose" should be used.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Even disregarding the Triforce's inability to do what the goddesses can, the Master Sword has likewise told it to sit down and eat its vegetables, proving once more that it is not omnipotent.

It honestly surprises me people still try to argue with me about Zelda canon, as if I have a life or something and haven't studied this shit extensively instead of doing something productive.

And again, Zelda is still not an anime, and still does not belong in this thread.

Like I said before, Master Sword counters it's effects. It's not a switch that shuts the Triforce off. Its purpose is to make a way for the world to be brought back to light should the Triforce ever be gripped by evil. You're making it sound like Link once smashed the Triforce with the MS.

Yeah, so I'm gonna go with an in-game statement.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Like I said before, Master Sword counters it's effects. It's not a switch that shuts the Triforce off. Its purpose is to make a way for the world to be brought back to light should the Triforce ever be gripped by evil. You're making it sound like Link once smashed the Triforce with the MS.

Yeah, so I'm gonna go with an in-game statement.

._. Wow
Nothing in Zelda is even considered Nigh-Omnipotent.....

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
._. Wow
Nothing in Zelda is even considered Nigh-Omnipotent.....

This is causing me to question your reading comprehension.

Scream, until you post me a cutscene, I've got you beat every time. No disrespect, but show me the game. Try not to reach.

This is getting sad, 5L.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnfLgQxWxe0

Omnipotence cannot be destroyed. This is why you shouldn't argue with people who know the source material better than you do.

Here you go, BeyonderGod:

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
This is getting sad, 5L.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnfLgQxWxe0

Omnipotence cannot be destroyed. This is why you shouldn't argue with people who know the source material better than you do.

I KNEW you would try to pull that out. Too bad it doesn't mean a thing.
It seems you have forgotten that the Triforce has been "destroyed" more than once, only to have no affect on its powers, both pre-existing and wishes after (Wind Waker, for example).
Ergo, the Triforce still exists and still functions when complete, like always. Whether its 3 pieces, 8 pieces, or 1000 pieces, when the relic is in its final form, it will bring the power. Play a Zelda game and respect your betters.