Majestic(WILDSTORM) VERSUS Hulk(DOC GREEN)

Started by carver916 pages

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You mean, he loses because you haven't seen any speed feats of note which enables him to compete with Maj?

I mean, he has, IYO, the 'feat' with Ultron's arm, so you obv think he's covered in the strength department.

He has the feat with Iron Man, so you obv think he has SOME durability feats (continental ultrasonics).

So you are just throwing a hissy fit and calling the thread pointless because you don't have anything to counter his speed argument, which, when allied to his strength and smarts, is pretty damn formidable.

If that's what you want to think Dark. Stop trying to bait me. I don't think speed is the issue here and I don't base my debate off of one showing unless I have something combat wise to cling too. His one Ironman fight isn't enough. His adamantium showing isn't enough. I wouldn't say Thor girl would stomp Captain Marvel because she dented something that was made of Adamantium, Uru, and dipped in magic. I debate off of fts, lots of them or enough. Now move on. I gave Maj the win here so stop trying to bait me.

Regardless not like jack was going light speed or anywhere near that. He just wanted him to goad him to follow. In carvers mind that means he was going 100% top speed

Originally posted by carver9
If that's what you want to think Dark. Stop trying to bait me. I don't think speed is the issue here and I don't base my debate off of one showing unless I have something combat wise to cling too. His one Ironman fight isn't enough. His adamantium showing isn't enough. I wouldn't say Thor girl would stomp Captain Marvel because she dented something that was made of Adamantium, Uru, and dipped in magic. I debate off of fts, lots of them or enough. Now move on. I gave Maj the win here so stop trying to bait me.

It's irrelevant if you gave Maj the win because you've also given Hulk FTL reflexes. You say you debate off feats, but then here you are bringing up Hulk tagging Gladiator, when Gladiator has *feats* showing high end super speed.

So his time dilation feat, Hulk could totally replicate that?

Originally posted by carver9
What I'm saying is, Hulk has shown to be fast enough to hit his target. Example...Jack of Heart, Herald of Galactus has traversed at light speed and above but Hulk was fast enough to grab him before he could react (nothing alive can move this fast).

I don't know what else to tell you besides Hulk hasn't had any issue tagging light speed characters.

Jack of Hearts isn't a Herald of Galactus. 😂

Originally posted by carver9
If that's what you want to think Dark. Stop trying to bait me. I don't think speed is the issue here and I don't base my debate off of one showing unless I have something combat wise to cling too. His one Ironman fight isn't enough. His adamantium showing isn't enough. I wouldn't say Thor girl would stomp Captain Marvel because she dented something that was made of Adamantium, Uru, and dipped in magic. I debate off of fts, lots of them or enough. Now move on. I gave Maj the win here so stop trying to bait me.

Not baiting you.

First, it's an LoB thread. We both know he loves the Superman types.

He then specifically said Doc Green in the titles.

Then used a Doc Green profile pic.

And then you come in, using Savage Hulk from God knows when (lol), bringing up feats from the olden days etc, then saying oh, IF this was the case.

Originally posted by carver9
What I'm saying is, Hulk has shown to be fast enough to hit his target. Example...Jack of Heart, Herald of Galactus has traversed at light speed and above but Hulk was fast enough to grab him before he could react (nothing alive can move this fast).

I don't know what else to tell you besides Hulk hasn't had any issue tagging light speed characters.

Jack of Heart, herald of Galactus.

Anyway the only time Surfer has used combat speed against Hulk, Hulk was unable to touch him.

Not that I think Hulk can't tag Majestic especially considering Majestic doesn't fight like that and Hulk is the fastest there is, but still.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not baiting you.

First, it's an LoB thread. We both know he loves the Superman types.

He then specifically said Doc Green in the titles.

Then used a Doc Green profile pic.

And then you come in, using Savage Hulk from God knows when (lol), bringing up feats from the olden days etc, then saying oh, IF this was the case.

👆

With that said, Maj wins.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not baiting you.

First, it's an LoB thread. We both know he loves the Superman types.

He then specifically said Doc Green in the titles.

Then used a Doc Green profile pic.

And then you come in, using Savage Hulk from God knows when (lol), bringing up feats from the olden days etc, then saying oh, IF this was the case.

Isn't Doc Green just another amped 'Savage Hulk'? That'd be like overriding Savage Hulk's feats just because he's in WWH persona.

Actual question since I know nothing about Doc Green.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Jack of Heart, herald of Galactus.

Anyway the only time Surfer has used combat speed against Hulk, Hulk was unable to touch him.

Not that I think Hulk can't tag Majestic especially considering Majestic doesn't fight like that and Hulk is the fastest there is, but still.

But this is entirely different then what was being said. You are saying Hulk can tag Majestic because he will forget or otherwise choose not to use his speed. Others are saying Hulk could tag him regardless.

Originally posted by Surtur
But this is entirely different then what was being said. You are saying Hulk can tag Majestic because he will forget to use his super speed. Others are saying Hulk could tag him regardless.
I'm saying it doesn't matter. Hulk is now super duper fast and Majestic is basically a brawler if memory serves me right.

Galactus should never have bothered making Jack of Hearts his herald. Should have chosen Hulk instead.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I'm saying it doesn't matter. Hulk is now super duper fast and Majestic is basically a brawler if memory serves me right.

But how is Hulk now "super duper" fast? Majestic is a brawler, but he also has high end super speed. He's going to have to make the conscious decision not to use all his powers. Which means if he lost the fight it would only mean Hulk beat a handicapped version of Maj.

Though you'd still have to explain why, even if he didn't use his speed to start off with, he wouldn't eventually begin to use it once the Hulk starts wailing on him. Since..why wouldn't he? Maj isn't like Lobo where he gets off on pain.

Don't be silly guys, Hulk speedblitzes him like he did yo beyonder. I'VE GOT SCANS!!!

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/117763/3168604-beyonder00116.jpg

Speed lines, check.

Overpowering an abstract being, check.

The Church of Gamma would welcome one such as you.

Originally posted by Surtur
But how is Hulk now "super duper" fast? Majestic is a brawler, but he also has high end super speed. He's going to have to make the conscious decision not to use all his powers. Which means if he lost the fight it would only mean Hulk beat a handicapped version of Maj.

Though you'd still have to explain why, even if he didn't use his speed to start off with, he wouldn't eventually begin to use it once the Hulk starts wailing on him. Since..why wouldn't he? Maj isn't like Lobo where he gets off on pain.

Lol...he isn't serious. He is being funny...sarcastic.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Don't be silly guys, Hulk speedblitzes him like he did yo beyonder. I'VE GOT SCANS!!!

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/117763/3168604-beyonder00116.jpg

It's funny because Dr. Strange has a look of horror on his face and everyone else kind of..doesn't. Reed Richards also appears to be wearing black lipstick.

Also where the f*ck are Reed's eyeballs?

Originally posted by Surtur
It's funny because Dr. Strange has a look of horror on his face and everyone else kind of..doesn't. Reed Richards also appears to be wearing black lipstick.

Also where the f*ck are Reed's eyeballs?

That isn't a real Hulk....just a copy of the Hulk made from Beyonder mind.

😂 @ Carver. Jack of hearts is a Herald of galactus now.

Originally posted by carver9
That isn't a real Hulk....just a copy of the Hulk made from Beyonder mind.

I see, well Beyonder is strange. Making copies of the Hulk..removing Reed's eyeballs from their sockets leaving nothing but blackness there.

Originally posted by Surtur
But how is Hulk now "super duper" fast? Majestic is a brawler, but he also has high end super speed. He's going to have to make the conscious decision not to use all his powers. Which means if he lost the fight it would only mean Hulk beat a handicapped version of Maj.

Though you'd still have to explain why, even if he didn't use his speed to start off with, he wouldn't eventually begin to use it once the Hulk starts wailing on him. Since..why wouldn't he? Maj isn't like Lobo where he gets off on pain.

I'm not saying he won't use super speed. I'm saying he won't use it in a way to be unhittable or throw thousands of punches a second before Hulk blinks. Because he's never done that based off memory.

Hulk's super speed is more than enough to keep up adequately with what has been shown of Majestic's combat speed outside like one instance. Not that glass jaw wins because he's got a big green glass jaw more often than not, but speed isn't going to be the deciding factor.

And if Hulk wins it's because Majestic is a moron, not because of a handicap.