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Sabers - Caedus
Force - Plagueis
All Out - Caedus
These are among the most comparable characters in the mythos, imo. I feel like Caedus is clearly the better duelist but I also think Plagueis' saber skill is underrated and that he wouldn't get trounced. Plagueis holds the edge in regards to force, but again, the edge is not big. They just seem so comparable, this would be one of the best fights in the mythos.
Jacen 6-7/10
Originally posted by Trocitypretty much this. Though i feel the the gap between them in sabers is slightly bigger than the gap between them in the force.
Sabers - CaedusForce - Plagueis
All Out - Caedus
These are among the most comparable characters in the mythos, imo. I feel like Caedus is clearly the better duelist but I also think Plagueis' saber skill is underrated and that he wouldn't get trounced. Plagueis holds the edge in regards to force, but again, the edge is not big. They just seem so comparable, this would be one of the best fights in the mythos.
Jacen 6-7/10
Originally posted by WildBantha88
How are they comparable in sabers? Plageuis fought one guy, an unestablished character and narrowly won. Caedus was better thanJaina will missing an arm and mortally wounded
He's incredibly strong and fast so Jacen has no advantages there. He has beastly stamina and can take a ton of damage just like Jacen too. He's a saber master in (I think?) all saber forms and even if Jacen is a superior duelist, Plagueis has shown himself able to beat a better fighter in sabers even so. I think Plagueis can give Luke a good saber fight just like Jacen did and I think he's above Jaina just like Caedus.
This is an analysis of Plagueis's fighting style I made a while back for something, idk. It might be useful:
Darth Plagueis's dueling abilities are really hard to gauge given his lack of exposure in that area of combat, however, they can be reasonably estimated if one looks deeper. Given Plagueis's generalization, disdain for lightsaber combat, reliance on his force abilities, and some familiarity with dual wielding, his primary form of lightsaber combat is almost certainly Niman. Though Plagueis lacks exposure as a duelist and considers lightsaber duels a tedious affair, his skills in lightsaber combat should not be underestimated. Darth Plagueis's skills in Niman were such that Darth Tenebrous, a noted lightsaber enthusiast who trained both Plagueis and Venamis in multiple forms, considered Plagueis to be a master of the art. Given that Tenebrous seemed to be critical of Plagueis at times, and that he had a passion for lightsaber combat, praise such as this is not to be taken lightly. Also for consideration, is the fact that Plagueis trained Sidious in lightsaber combat, and even engaged in training exercises with Sidious, such as those with the kursid warriors, and the battle droids. Considering that Plagueis trained Sidious, and that Sidious was the apprentice in their relationship, it seems unlikely that Sidious would be massively more skilled as a duelist than Plagueis was during the time of their master/apprentice relationship, so we can infer that Plagueis was a highly skilled duelist. Plagueis also places a certain emphasis on the importance of adaptability, which makes Niman a very well suited style for him. Furthermore, Niman has been considered to be the most practical style, and unlike the Niman noobs who practice it because it’s easy, Plagueis was regarded as a master of lightsaber combat, so he clearly actually put in the time to take the form seriously and master it. Niman was not the only form in Plagueis’s repertoire however. When put on his back foot by Venamis, Plagueis applied what appears to be Soresu against him. In his practice of Soresu, Plagueis seemed to fall into the rhythm of the fight so he could respond to all of Venamis’s attacks, without counter-attacking until Venamis got frustrated and started making mistakes. So Plagueis is clearly most comfortable with Niman, as it is his primary form and he has mastered it very effectively, but should that fail him, he falls into the rhythm of combat and uses Soresu to outlast his opponent. Plagueis also demonstrated a familiarity with hand to hand combat, killing several Maladian assassins with his bare hands.
Originally posted by Nephthysmastery in all forms or high level of skill in all forms doesn't mean squat to most debaters. Just look at Gnost and how people shoot down any attempt at giving him appropriate respect. The point is Plageuis beat one opponent only barely. And that oppont was only ever shown in that one duel. The rest is just speculation and people thinking "Well he is god-like in his force powers, the same must apply to his dueling skills." Well forgive my logic but I'm not so quick to jump aboard that train. This is not to say he isn't a great duelist but Jacen level is a whole different story
He's incredibly strong and fast so Jacen has no advantages there. He has beastly stamina and can take a ton of damage just like Jacen too. He's a saber master in (I think?) all saber forms and even if Jacen is a superior duelist, Plagueis has shown himself able to beat a better fighter in sabers even so. I think Plagueis can give Luke a good saber fight just like Jacen did and I think he's above Jaina just like Caedus.
Originally posted by WildBantha88
mastery in all forms or high level of skill in all forms doesn't mean squat to most debaters. Just look at Gnost and how people shoot down any attempt at giving him appropriate respect. The point is Plageuis beat one opponent only barely. And that oppont was only ever shown in that one duel. The rest is just speculation and people thinking "Well he is god-like in his force powers, the same must apply to his dueling skills." Well forgive my logic but I'm not so quick to jump aboard that train. This is not to say he isn't a great duelist but Jacen level is a whole different story
I'm not most debaters.