The Rataka, good as they are said?

Started by ChaosTheory1232 pages
Originally posted by The Merchant
Pretty sure right after that page of that bombing we see the turbolaser blasts hitting the ground and just causing forest-fires.

Don't remember honestly

Doesn't look like a forest fire to me, too violent a detonation

Depending on how the scan looked too?

You could have just been seeing the edge of the AOE anyway.

Inverse Square Law, energy decreases in potency the larger the surface area gets.

I already know about the 2nd one, which I see no problem with them. However Leviathans aren't Rakatan ships.

Wouldn't know :hmm

I thought they were, but maybe they were KOTOR era ships the Forge produced?

They defeated Soa, a guy who claims he could destroy stars with a mere thought. Problem is that I'm pretty sure he was exaggerating about his power considering that he was defeated by the Republic/Sith Strike team. There's also how we know in SW Force Users don't destroy stars usually with just brute power. Some Inquisitor kid was able to manipulate Solar Flares and even claimed he could cause a Star to go Supernova if he intended it.

We literally see the turbolaser bolt come down from orbit and hit nearby the main protagonists. Wish I had the scan on me since I've seen it before.

Leviathan classes are also known as the Interdictor classes and were originally created by the Old Republic and later adopted by Revan's Sith Empire.

Originally posted by The Merchant
They defeated Soa, a guy who claims he could destroy stars with a mere thought. Problem is that I'm pretty sure he was exaggerating about his power considering that he was defeated by the Republic/Sith Strike team. There's also how we know in SW Force Users don't destroy stars usually with just brute power. Some Inquisitor kid was able to manipulate Solar Flares and even claimed he could cause a Star to go Supernova if he intended it.

Not Soa

The World Razer

this thing

Hearsay, but something about historical records espousing its power to destroy stars and planets

**** if I know for sure though

Originally posted by The Merchant
We literally see the turbolaser bolt come down from orbit and hit nearby the main protagonists. Wish I had the scan on me since I've seen it before.

That'd be a low end

This showing and the showing you're mentioning are different events dude (the one I posted was done in the past IIRC, this was told via flashback)

These have an AOE of hundreds of kilometers

what you mentioned probably didn't encompass a kilometer

Leviathan classes are also known as the Interdictor classes and were originally created by the Old Republic and later adopted by Revan's Sith Empire.

Gotcha :hmm

Also, you have a bad habit of selectively appealing to conservation of energy dude :hmm

Not saying they are weak Chaos, I'm just trying to figure where they stand is all.

That I can't help you with

I'm more interested in characters than the tech

I just know about some feats they have

Interesting fact about the Rakata ships by the way?

They're entirely powered by nameless force sensitive slaves as told in the scan I posted earlier :maybe

I wouldn't exactly call it hearsay that it can destroy planets when it's freaking name is literally the World Razer.

Turbolaser bolt working with classic energy they are not sourced by the force !
If they were sourced by the force it will requiere a force sensistiv sourcing each turbolaser !!!!!
Interdictor are Republican their design is republican...

This is not about rakatta technology ! SHut up please !

Originally posted by The Merchant
We literally see the turbolaser bolt come down from orbit and hit nearby the main protagonists. Wish I had the scan on me since I've seen it before.

Leviathan classes are also known as the Interdictor classes and were originally created by the Old Republic and later adopted by Revan's Sith Empire.

Well fine.. Good to read... This is Saul karah the friend of Carth Onasi who stole the first model of interdictor before deserting the republican ranks to Join Revan...

Imagine a turbo laser.. It need a lot of energy.. For those who have played X-Wing alliance most of the ship cannot run at 100% with their shield engine and weapon system at the same time....
The same for the capital ship.

For a Rakatta ship.. It is sourced by the force, the darkside of the force. The power of the ship is boosted by the rage the pain and the fury of the battle.
The ship can rune at 300% !!!!

Their ship are like superman no theorical limit... In pure theory one of their turbolaser can reach the power of an axial superlaser...

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Originally posted by Zenwolf
Ok...so? How would that make it any better than later tech?

It gave capabilities that normal tech doesn't. A different power source.

Btw, their ships and such still got surpassed by conventional tech eventually, and way down the road Krayt's force tech is IMO quite superior.

It's an edge, not an insurmountable one.

Also wouldn't that kind of be a glaring flaw?

It was. That's why they fell, and why they were limited to just a few hundred worlds (force based hyperdrive is not nearly as flexible).

Originally posted by Revanchiste

They rule the galaxy longer than the republic exist !!!! It take time for them to build their own empire !

Nah, we don't know precisely when it started, but we only have 11k+ years confirmed, and the Republic lasted 25k.


For a Rakatta ship.. It is sourced by the force, the darkside of the force. The power of the ship is boosted by the rage the pain and the fury of the battle.
The ship can rune at 300% !!!!

Their ship are like superman no theorical limit... In pure theory one of their turbolaser can reach the power of an axial superlaser...

Theory vs practical and all that. In practice, there'd only be so much dark side energy around. Oh, and at some point you'd burn out your emitters, I'd think.

No Rakatan ship would be remotely near a match for a Super Star Destroyer in practice, or many of the later era ships.

"Theory vs practical and all that. In practice, there'd only be so much dark side energy around. Oh, and at some point you'd burn out your emitters, I'd think."

It's like superman can accumulate infinite quantities of energy in theory but in pratice this is totaly different...

You explain everuthing for me....

But in pratice their ship can really run at 300%.

They don't fire super laser but they match a star destroyeur in my opinion.. Because we never seen a single Rkattas ship ! We do not know their performance however we know the performance of their opponents.. Onfaction that resist the Rakattas where the celestians....

P.S I have only found some transports slave transports....
No tru combat ship except a supper weapon.... Some kind of Giga Holocron with some mass power of destruction...

We know than there blaster are more advanced than imperial ones....

Sith were using the same kind of device...

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Originally posted by Q99

Btw, their ships and such still got surpassed by conventional tech eventually, and way down the road Krayt's force tech is IMO quite superior.

It's an edge, not an insurmountable one.

I'm not doubting they were surpassed, but its hard to determine how significant the advancement of tech in Star Wars is from era to era

The better feats of a given eras capital ships generally appear to land around the same ball park as far as I've seen and all :hmm

Barring, perhaps, considering the Half the GE fleet = Deathstar shit and that one trading card feat IIRC anyway :hmm

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Originally posted by ChaosTheory123
I'm not doubting they were surpassed, but its hard to determine how significant the advancement of tech in Star Wars is from era to era

The better feats of a given eras capital ships generally appear to land around the same ball park as far as I've seen and all :hmm

It should be noted that the size of ships do steadily increase.

The Hammerhead class cruiser was a mainstay and perfectly normal in size for a ship of the line when it was introduced in the Old Sith Wars at 315, and bigger than the Old Sith Empire's 215 meter Derriphan-class vessels that stayed around til Revan's time, getting some print runs on the Star Forge (and the Derriphan lacked shields, even! At least at first).

Leviathan/Interdictor-class ships came out a bit later during the Mandalorian wars and at 600 meters served as flagships but did become ships of the line, and the 1,200 Centurion class was the rare-and-powerful large command ship.

In the TOR era, the Harrower class was introduced and noted as being a big step forward in Warship design. It was 800 meters long and the biggest mass produced ship out there, requiring groups of Hammerheads to take on, and now we have a ship of the line bigger than the prior big flagship.

By the Clone Wars, the Venator was a solid new ship at 1,137 meters long, notably bigger and tougher than a Harrower- as were it's foes. Notably, this is also around when giant super-flagships start cropping up, like the CIS's 4,845 meter Subjugator heavy cruiser.

The Venator was soon surpassed by Imperial Star Destroyers a few years later, at 1,600 meters long. Super flagships were often 8km, and sometimes as much as 19km. Ships the same size as, and even with some design influences from, the Hammerhead, are now in a mere 'frigate' role and only are used against the SDs in groups (Nebulon-B). Clearly, they had gotten better at building big, and ships were stronger.

And by Legacy, things started to progress a bit differently as there was an emphasis on more compact ships, especially by the Galactic Alliance. The Pellaeon class of the Fel Empire was a bit shorter than an ISD but bulkier, the Imperious class a bit bigger but still in that size range and considered the best ship around, the 2+km 'Dragon ships', and they often went against Scythe-class ships about 1/3rd the length of the Pellaeon (so, smaller than a Harrower!) who, due to a combination of advances in turbolaser technology (more rapid fire) and a designed based on focus fire, they were able to take on the larger ships.

Or to put it another way, late-era ships resemble giant flagships from earlier era, until you get to Grand Alliance Legacy ships, which merely pack the firepower of early-era flagships in tiny packages, said 'tiny' packages still being bigger than the early-era line ships.

SW doesn't really jump massively in firepower and toughness, but there's enough clear advances seen during eras (introduction of Harrower, Venator-to-ISD, introduction of the compact-powerful Scythes, etc.) that incremental increase is clearly there and later ships are definitely both bigger than their past counterparts on average and, eventually, pound for pound stronger than early ones. You can do most of the same things with the older ships, you just need more of them, they're less tough and have less gun.

And, looping all~l the way back to the Ratakans, I'm pretty sure their ships were smaller than the Hammerheads, though very likely stronger due to the pound-for-pound edge of the force tech (but still definitely fightable with Hammerheads)... and from the above progression, you should note that makes them smaller than, and likely very significantly outgunned by, the 'small and compact' Scythe class ships of Legacy.

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Originally posted by ChaosTheory123
I'm not doubting they were surpassed, but its hard to determine how significant the advancement of tech in Star Wars is from era to era

The better feats of a given eras capital ships generally appear to land around the same ball park as far as I've seen and all :hmm

Barring, perhaps, considering the Half the GE fleet = Deathstar shit and that one trading card feat IIRC anyway :hmm


But it is staten tha gathering all the fleet was a major issue for the security of the empire and it wasn't a tool of fear... In the intro of the latest version of ANH.

However when you see what a single interdictor can do to taris....

Centurin are slow so slow....

I'm sure than you forget the mandator I (appear at the end of the clone war) Mandator II and III.
The bellatorI and II which are the first model of super star destroyeur before the executor...

Quasi all the Rakattas ship have been destroyed in a civil war...

XD Rakattas like the vong were playing the kamikaze with ship full of slave has shield.