Originally posted by Sin I AM
No. Look at his respect thread
I don't have to. I've read most of Iron man's modern appearances. And yes there is a significant difference between Iron man of past and modern iron man. His toys weren't sophisticated enough to damage most of the heavy hitters back in the day, now he really has no reason to even hit someone.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
PR just pm'd me. He's on pins and needles on the outcome. He also stated that if the majority vote Aquaman can't tag Tony, he might have a nervous breakdown.So I think for the good of his well being, you should collect the results in secret. That's just me..
You realise I could have you banned, right?
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lol though. Aquaman can and most likely will tag Iron Man. Doesn't mean he'll win, but people are acting crazy.
Originally posted by Surtur
It's genuinely possible he can't. This isn't the first time I've heard of Iron Man having reflexes above normal, and combining that with his flight speed? Well, what are Nu Aquamans best speed feats? Pre Nu had some decent levels of speed, what about the current one?If the guy decides to toss the trident here, he's probably going to miss. His best bet would be not throwing it, but just stabbing at him, but keeping the trident IN his possession. Problem is he is screwed either way. I don't see how he gets up close enough to IM to stab him with the trident, not unless IM decides to stand and not move. I likewise don't see how he'd ever actually manage to tag him by throwing the trident, unless Aquaman has been shown to throw it with some amazing speed.
i missed this post. nu AM is physically superior to preboot, so imo his speed feats from before could carry over. in terms of displayed speed--most are underwater of course. but swimming at speeds greater than jets is pretty impressive. he's done the usual dodging and blocking of laser/energy weapons that obviously require some form of enhanced reflexes but that's about it.
i can't really see him throwing the trident--he doesn't do that all that often and only if he can't miss, though i imagine a cl100 guy could certainly throw it with crazy speed....
Originally posted by Blair Wind
He has flight. Aquaman doesn't. Iron Man doesn't need to be anywhere near him to beat him. Or he can use these:
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Modern%20Iron%20Man%20Armors/PentagonImageInducer01Legacy1.jpg.htmlSo Arthur won't even know where to begin fighting.
Doesn't have to be a gamechanger, but it could be a tactical advantage when he pulls at the trident:
and then pushes it up with a magnetic force pulse:
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Modern%20Iron%20Man%20Armors/BEMagnetism01IIM512.jpg.htmlYou mentioned Shields. Iron Man uses repulsar tech for his shields. I don't see why he can't go from this:
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Modern%20Iron%20Man%20Armors/PentagonForcefields10MightyAvengers22.jpg.htmlor this:
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Modern%20Iron%20Man%20Armors/PentagonForcefields07NewAvengers6.jpg.html
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Modern%20Iron%20Man%20Armors/PentagonForcefields08.jpg.htmlTo his full form repulsar ray - using the same shield field he had set up:
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Modern%20Iron%20Man%20Armors/ExtremisRepulsorRays01MightyAvengers1.jpg.htmlOr, if he's being smart using sonics, use the microwave technique he used against Namor, or just put him in a stasis field like he did to Apoc, twice:
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Modern%20Iron%20Man%20Armors/BEForcefields05ASMAnnual39.jpg.html
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Modern%20Iron%20Man%20Armors/BEForcefields01Avengersv43.jpg.htmlFlight. Armor. Shields. Sonics that shut down the human brain. Magnetics. Anti-Gravity Tech (which he's used to send people to space - like Nova). Pulse Beams. Repulsar Rays. Image Inducers so Arthur doesn't know where the real Tony is. Tony has too many options for him to lose here. The only way Aquaman wins is if he gets his hands on him and is under water.
we must have posted simultaneously since i missed this as well.
my issue with some of those feats is this: not all armors do the same things and can't be assumed to possess the same abilities. that repulsor field is pretty unique and i wonder if it's ever been used since, or with another armor? i could def see sonics hurting, but not ko'ing arthur. stasis field might work, but i wouldn't be surprised if am could bust out with the trident. microwaves are a good bet, no doubt. you're also getting pretty exotic with anti-grav stuff. even illusions are not normal fare for tony.
in the end i agree tony wins the majority. still say it's closer than you think though.
Originally posted by JayDaDon
I don't have to. I've read most of Iron man's modern appearances. And yes there is a significant difference between Iron man of past and modern iron man. His toys weren't sophisticated enough to damage most of the heavy hitters back in the day, now he really has no reason to even hit someone.
Meh. Disagree. Again you're arguing what he should do as opposed to what he does do. And I've yet to see any ownage of a legit class 100 that suggests his ordnance is all he needs ftw
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in think the sonics could and would be enough to give tony some wins, coupled with other abilities. but it wouldn't win it on its own.
am is a TRUE cl100 guy. he's tossed submarines OUT of the water, lifted an ocean liner and even thrown massive ship (underwater). those are crazy a$$ feats of strength. and i've no doubt the trident could pierce his armor. it would just mean getting close enough. if tony goes all exotic, then yes, i agree, it is certainly his to lose. but if he fights with his standard tools, the way he normally fights, i could def see arthur taking him.
Originally posted by leonidas
👆in think the sonics could and would be enough to give tony some wins, coupled with other abilities. but it wouldn't win it on its own.
am is a TRUE cl100 guy. he's tossed submarines OUT of the water, lifted an ocean liner and even thrown massive ship (underwater). those are crazy a$$ feats of strength. and i've no doubt the trident could pierce his armor. it would just mean getting close enough. if tony goes all exotic, then yes, i agree, it is certainly his to lose. but if he fights with his standard tools, the way he normally fights, i could def see arthur taking him.
This. People want to draw on random feats from random armors and post scans without context. Tonys standard gear, not prepped gear or one time showing gear isn't one shotting aquaman
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Meh. Disagree. Again you're arguing what he should do as opposed to what he does do. And I've yet to see any ownage of a legit class 100 that suggests his ordnance is all he needs ftw
He uses repulsors all the time. All. The .Time. And im not even really arguing him using the really exotic weaponry.
