Team Thor -Vs- Team Black Adam

the only reason his suit stands up to Superman is because its powered by Kryptonite, it doesn't even have a helmet to protect his face

Agreed. In this fight, without prep in play, he's not at his best.

His DCNU armor does have a helmet.

Team Adam.

Problem is, DCnU Grundy is the main threat here. Preboot Grundy, amps up to whatever level he is facing. So have him fight Batman, and he is Bats level - fight Superman, and he's Supes level.

OP has specified it is DCnU, however, and THAT guy was unstoppable. He should balance DCnU Bizarro, though I confess apart from the few issues with the CSA I haven't seen much of him.

Bfr would be the only way to stop dcnu grundy.

So Dc has has a bunch of unstoppable guys now?

Only use Grundy in BFR allowed threads then?

Originally posted by Supermex
So Dc has has a bunch of unstoppable guys now?

Only use Grundy in BFR allowed threads then?

Outside of Godblast, there isn't a whole lot team Thor can do. Like I said, read some Earth 2. He's the avatar of the Grey. Standard power level.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Outside of Godblast, there isn't a whole lot team Thor can do. Like I said, read some Earth 2. He's the avatar of the Grey. Standard power level.

What feats does Grundy on Earth 2 have?

Has he beat up Superman or someone in that leve?

Originally posted by Supermex
So Dc has has a bunch of unstoppable guys now?

Only use Grundy in BFR allowed threads then?

WEll, you DID specify DCnU Grundy, and he has only shown up in two main storylines.

The first, Earth-2 GL (who is the Avatar of the Green on E-2) was unable to defeat him, until he sent him to the Moon (and only realised this AFTER the Grey told him how to, as they themselves were unable to stop him):

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Originally posted by Golgo13
Outside of Godblast, there isn't a whole lot team Thor can do. Like I said, read some Earth 2. He's the avatar of the Grey. Standard power level.

So currently Grundy is now above HH level in DCnu comics as a standard?

Originally posted by Supermex
So Grundy is now above HH level in DC comics as a standard?

Which Grundy were you going to use? lol

Originally posted by Golgo13
Which Grundy were you going to use? lol

Current.. Dcnu

How many Grundy's are there?

There has only been one. Grundy has always been the avatar of the Grey, so I don't know what you're going on about.

Originally posted by Golgo13
There has only been one. Grundy has always been the avatar of the Grey, so I don't know what you're going on about.

I'm asking you if you feel Grundy is above HH level currently in DCNU ?

Originally posted by Supermex
I'm asking you if you feel Grundy is above HH level currently in DCNU ?

Yes. He's mainly formidable, because he's hard to put down. Add in the death touch and strength.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Yes. He's mainly formidable, because he's hard to put down. Add in the death touch and strength.

Which Grundy would be best to use that is close or at HH level?

Originally posted by Golgo13
As avatar of the Grey, Grundy is one of the most powerful here. He can use his death touch or come back from getting blown up or cut. He's a beast.

Okay, but who the heck is "Grey"? What are the limits of his death touch, who has he used it on?

Originally posted by Surtur
Okay, but who the heck is "Grey"? What are the limits of his death touch, who has he used it on?

Swamp Thing is the Avatar of the Green - all plant life
Animal Man, the Red - animal life
Etc etc

In earth-2, the Red has another avatar, and the Avatar of the Green is Green Lantern Alan Scott.

The Grey is the parliament that rules and controls anything that is dead, or rotten. So immortals would be immune, I guess.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

immortals would be immune, I guess.

This is confusing though because people who are alive and not immortal are not actually dead or rotting. Unless it just means anything with the potential to die and rot. But then it makes you wonder, there are immortals who are immune to aging but can still be slain in battle. So they are capable of death, so would they still be immune?

Originally posted by Surtur
This is confusing though because people who are alive and not immortal are not actually dead or rotting. Unless it just means anything with the potential to die and rot. But then it makes you wonder, there are immortals who are immune to aging but can still be slain in battle. So they are capable of death, so would they still be immune?

He can control dead skin cells, that cavity you have in your mouth, cancerous cells etc.

The way E2 Grundy was working, however, was that he was draining people. So anything that's alive was feeding him.

Think Nekron, if you want.