Originally posted by riv6672
Would SS survive the initial onslaught to retaliate, in YO?
Hard to say.
I haven't seen Jeroen really strain with much when transmuting; he effortlessly swapped some normal human guys' bones into Calvin Klein.
Of course, Surfer is a whole other level. The evil Doctor (who had the same powers, but different mindset) was screwing with hundreds of Authority members from alt. realities, though.
Originally posted by riv6672
While i dont really consider any of the Authority except the Jennies on SSs level, thats impressive as hell. But like you said, that wasnt Thornedyke. Appreciate the DS level input, as always...!
Yah. It was pretty impressive, considering how easily he did it:
But, neither here nor there.
Originally posted by carver9
Didn't Apollo punch the Doctor brains out and nothing happened?
That's a rather contradictory post. But expected from you. 😄
But if you mean did he do it and it failed to put him down, then yes, yes that happened. Apollo also used a Door to take the fight to the Sun, to amp himself.
Doctor wins.
Also, the evil Doctor's feats are admissible. Each incarnation inherits the experiences and abilities of past Doctors.
Not that Jeroen doesn't have equally beastly feats (he does). But he could easily replicate anything from the evil Doctor, and has on numerous occasions.
The exception is a speedblitz in a non-prepped scenario. The Doctor is vulnerable to it, and Surfer is more than capable of exploiting that fact.
Not sure why you place Jenny above him though, Riv. The Doctor stalemated her in their lone encounter and, if anything, got the better of the exchange. And they were both using their powersets quite well.