How to fight ISIS - What do you Think?
Many disagree with the thought of sending in ground troops. Why not hire companies like Blackwater, Tiger Swan, Infinity, Craft Intl. etc ec. Virtually all of their "employees" are ex-military special forces. I believe they would kick ISIS ass. Thoughts anyone?
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
According to Obama we need to give them "jobs"Yes thats American tax payers job. Give them jobs...
Now did Obama actually say exactly that, or did he say something like "have the rebuild Iraq" and you're just doing a "Deh tuk errr jebbs!" thing cos you hate the man?
Originally posted by Star428
As opposed to just standing idly by and looking the other way while they keep beheading and burning people alive, right?
Basically, we defeated Islamic extremists in Iraq once. We left behind what we thought was a stable Iraqi nation only to find that three years later it all fell apart.
If foreign intervention defeats ISIS, it will only be a matter of time before the cycle repeats itself. To prevent groups like ISIS from coming to power in the future, only the Middle Eastern nations themselves can make the difference. They'll all need to stop funding and supporting non-state groups for their own strategic interests. They'll also need to do more to enfranchise and protect minorities. This is especially important in nations like Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon, and Bahrain, where the political hierarchy is determined by religious sect, and minorities are oppressed by the majorities (or, in Syria and Bahrain's cases) the majorities are oppressed by the minorities.
These aren't issues that will go away, and honestly they aren't anything that Western nations can fix unilaterally.
Originally posted by Tzeentch
Well that's what we're doing with Saudi Arabia, isn't it?
Actually, it isn't. The US actively ignores that Saudi Arabia beheads 3-4 people each day on average, that women are treated like little more than property and is one of the (if not they) top human rights violators on the planet.
With terrorist groups like ISIS and "evil" countries like N. Korea, the US in the very least points an accusatory finger while condemning such actions
Originally posted by Robtard
Actually, it isn't. The US actively ignores that Saudi Arabia beheads 3-4 people each day on average, that women are treated like little more than property and is one of the (if not they) top human rights violators on the planet.With terrorist groups like ISIS and "evil" countries like N. Korea, the US in the very least points an accusatory finger while condemning such actions
Isn't it more like 1 every 3-4 days and not vice versa? Still appalling but at least not a thou a year.
68 last year and 79 in 2013.
Source: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/isis-beheadings-saudi-punishments-difference-clear-n296876
If you want to effectively fight ISIS without sending in your own troops then you have to back those who are financially and militarily. That means Syria and Iran. Given that we're doing the exact opposite of that then there's not much hope on that front. So if not that then you have to weaken ISIS funding streams by pressuring and sanctioning the countries that are either directly funding ISIS or are allowing their wealthy citizens to do so, countries such as Qatar, Kuwait and UAE. Given that we're doing the exact opposite of that as well then there doesn't seem much hope of doing anything constructive to fight them. Given that the west can't fight them ideologically on the basis of it risking having the opposite effect then it has to be militarily which the west doesn't have the stomach for cos of 'war weariness' then financially is the best option. Get those useless bankers that are owe the world big time to start doing something ethically decent for once.
Originally posted by jaden101
If you want to effectively fight ISIS without sending in your own troops then you have to back those who are financially and militarily. That means Syria and Iran. Given that we're doing the exact opposite of that then there's not much hope on that front. So if not that then you have to weaken ISIS funding streams by pressuring and sanctioning the countries that are either directly funding ISIS or are allowing their wealthy citizens to do so, countries such as Qatar, Kuwait and UAE. Given that we're doing the exact opposite of that as well then there doesn't seem much hope of doing anything constructive to fight them. Given that the west can't fight them ideologically on the basis of it risking having the opposite effect then it has to be militarily which the west doesn't have the stomach for cos of 'war weariness' then financially is the best option. Get those useless bankers that are owe the world big time to start doing something ethically decent for once.
There's actually a growing protest movement within Al-Assad's own Alawite sect that's accusing the Syrian Government of doing nothing against ISIS because of the army's fear of actually having to fight a competent opponent, and they're probably right.
They wouldn't be useless at fighting ISIS if we never helped weaken them. The deal is basically...Syria are cvnts. ISIS are cvnts. Who's the bigger cvnts? Pick a side. Instead we find ourselves in a ridiculous situation of trying to fight ISIS without helping the Syrian regime. It ends in half measures and clearly isn't effective militarily, financially or ideologically.
Originally posted by jaden101
They wouldn't be useless at fighting ISIS if we never helped weaken them. The deal is basically...Syria are cvnts. ISIS are cvnts. Who's the bigger cvnts? Pick a side. Instead we find ourselves in a ridiculous situation of trying to fight ISIS without helping the Syrian regime. It ends in half measures and clearly isn't effective militarily, financially or ideologically.
As for "picking a side," I don't think you understand that siding with Al-Assad, apart from not being a viable strategy for defeating ISIS, would also make enemies of basically the entire Sunni population of the Middle East. That would be taking a big problem and making it even bigger.