2016 Presidencial Race

Started by Time Immemorial30 pages
Originally posted by NemeBro
You should probably check your facts before blindly agreeing with pictures online, sheep.

You do know that snopes is not an unquestionable authority on politics, they are obviously bias against conservative view points, and they are funded by liberals, regardless of their claim that they do not.

Provide evidence that she actually said the quote then.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Provide evidence that she actually said the quote then.

The youtube videos with her saying that 7 years ago, have all but disappeared and been pulled from youtube.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Provide evidence that she actually said the quote then.

I already tried. Isn't going to happen. I know you know this but my comment is directed more towards TI.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I already tried. Isn't going to happen. I know you know this but my comment is directed more towards TI.

No worries.

Can you at least provide proof of Hitler actually saying it?

Here are some of his famous quotes

http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quotes.nsf/quotes_author!ReadForm&Start=21&Count=20&RestrictToCategory=adolf+hitler

That link doesn't work, TI. You sure you typed it correctly?

If you can't source a quote, don't try and pass it off as a legitimate point of debate. That just wastes time in a thread like this.

So I did some checking around for that quote (Hillary's) and found this:

http://spectator.org/articles/47154/just-being-herself

Apparently, she said it in 93' when she was the first lady.

I also discovered something else interesting while searching for the origin of her quote:

http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx1QQDOW0MNUAOG

I never knew that Amazon had a discussion forum. I've been a customer of theirs for years and never realized it. LOL. Learned something new today.

Yay! 💃 💃

That's not a source, that's some guy saying she said it. My understanding is that book does not itself provide a source.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Reminds me of those people who say that (according to popular belief) because Hitler was a vegan, all vegans are evil.

As far as Hilary goes, just like Obama in the '12 election, she may not be the most superlative candidate ever, but she's undoubtedly the best on the card and the one I'll probably be voting for. All of her mess ups don't even remotely compare to the reign of terror the GOP has subjected America to over the past 6 years. Hilary may have said something stupid at some point, but at no point did she shut down the government, veto every bill the POTUS attempted to pass purely out of spite (including a bill to aid veterans), threaten to destroy the US economy, and treasonously humiliate America's foreign policy (amongst other things) like the GOP did. The Benghazi mess up and the ultimately pointless "email scandal" aren't even in the same league as the GOP's shenanigans.

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Haven't we had enough of presidents with socialistic agendas? I know I sure have but apparently many people seem to have a hard time learning from the past.

Originally posted by Star428
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Haven't we had enough of presidents with socialistic agendas? I know I sure have but apparently many people seem to have a hard time learning from the past.


You don't know what a socialistic agenda is 🙂

And the presidents of America, all looking to the line the pockets of various corporations, have never had one.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
That's not a source, that's some guy saying she said it. My understanding is that book does not itself provide a source.

I never claimed it was a verifiable source now did I? I simply posted what I found. However, I continued to search and found many other websites that have that listed as a quote of hers. It seems odd, don't u think, that so many different websites that have claimed that she made that statement are just making it up? Do you realize what slander and libel are?

Surely Hillary would've heard about this by now especially if some guy wrote a book with that in it. If she had, and they were all actually lying don't you think she would've tried suing them for libel or slander by now? And do you think the people who claimed that she said it would just make that up when they realized that they could be sued over it?

Doesn't make sense to me. Maybe it's not good enough for you as just a spectator of American politics and you think all those people are lying but it's certainly enough proof for me as an American voter.

Well if it was not a source then I do not know why you bothered posting it. As for it being repeated around the web- that's not in the least bit odd at all; the internet is famous for repetition of spurious nonsense without checking facts. There's an uncountable number of other examples.

That libel/slander example is a bit weird- you'd have a hell of a time establishing the quote was intend to be defamatory (if you think the case for libel/slander revolves around something being made up, you are mistaken), and who the hell would bother trawling through the courts for something that trivial? I DO know that the author of that book admitted he couldn't back a lot of those quotes though.

If you are accepting mere rumour as proof then that says a lot about you. Regardless of being a spectator or participant in any election, standards of sourcing and proof are universal and this fails that test on an objective basis. Those people aren't lying, btw- they are just doing the same as you; mindlessly repeating a rumour without properly checking because they really want it to be true. However, like I said above, do not use unsourced quotes as points in this thread, lest the thread descend into anyone making up whatever nonsense they like.

Originally posted by Star428
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Haven't we had enough of presidents with socialistic agendas? I know I sure have but apparently many people seem to have a hard time learning from the past.

I know I've had enough of Republicans sabotaging progress at every turn, whether or not they are the POTUS. You keep crying "socialism" all you want. The Democrat-run government isn't the Stalinist dictatorship you want it to be and never will be, provable by you being able to spout your BS opinion without worry. I understand your concern with government interference, but when that interference is only trying to benefit lives and prevent exploitation of those with lesser means, I'm more than willing to accept it. If/when the Democrat-run fascist dictatorship you are fearmongering about actually comes to pass, you can be the first to say I told you so, but we all know that isn't going to happen.

And if it does happen, it'll more than likely be under a GOP administration, considering the disgusting lengths they've went to in the past to get what they desire, common US citizens be damned.

Sorry, but all the socialist fearmongering in the world isn't going to convince me that the democrat with a few blemishes on her record is somehow an inferior candidate to the party who nearly FUBARed America on an economic, social, and geopolitical scale for 6 years out of pettiness.

Hillary's a better candidate than anybody the GOP can put up. She's going to win. You know this, and you're just crying and bitching about it like a hater and trying to smear her image with hilariously out-of-context comparisons to Hitler like a political strawman in a bad comedy.

Considering that you're willing to ignore everything the GOP has done over the last decade and a half, I'd say that you're the one having a hard time learning from the past.

The Clintons are the most corrupt politicians there is, and you want her to win.

You dissapoint me Lest.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
The Clintons are the most corrupt politicians there is, and you want her to win.

You dissapoint me Lest.

Lol.

Democrats are onlh considered socialist in murricah by murrican rightwingers.

Everywhere else in the world most american democrats are considered centric/rightwing

Originally posted by Star428
I never claimed it was a verifiable source now did I? I simply posted what I found. However, I continued to search and found many other websites that have that listed as a quote of hers. It seems odd, don't u think, that so many different websites that have claimed that she made that statement are just making it up? Do you realize what slander and libel are?

Surely Hillary would've heard about this by now especially if some guy wrote a book with that in it. If she had, and they were all actually lying don't you think she would've tried suing them for libel or slander by now? And do you think the people who claimed that she said it would just make that up when they realized that they could be sued over it?

Doesn't make sense to me. Maybe it's not good enough for you as just a spectator of American politics and you think all those people are lying but it's certainly enough proof for me as an American voter.

So you accept quotes as fact despite the fact that they can't be proven? What a sheep.