Originally posted by Surtur
I'm flabbergasted here. You say you aren't assuming anything, but then follow that up by saying all "Superman" are in tune with a multiversal frequency. That sounds like an assumption unless you have any feats from the version of Superman being used here to support it. Do you?
In final crisis it's mentioned in Superman Beyond, and then just at the end where preboot Superman "kills" Darkseid. Then it's revisited in action comics with Black Superman and the machine that their Luthor and Earth 1 Luthor has come across. This is later seen in multiversity The Justy. The frequency thing is listed in the guidebook and revisisted throughout all of multiversity.
I mentioned it in this thread about "screaming", since preboot Superman used his voice to affect it. But given how black Superman could affect it without using his voice and DCNU Superman can simply "feel" it, I guess it's not necessarily linked to him screaming or whatever, but rather his ability to vibrate 🙂
Originally posted by riv6672
The thread makes no sense to you...you're flabbergasted...
But you keep chugging along like that little engine. Thanks, Surtur... 😄And thanks for the conjecture, folks, appreciate it. 👆
Come on dude, you have people going on about multiversal frequencies that have nothing to do with the specific character in question. Then you have people saying he could beat Blackbolt in a scream contest if they were standing 20 feet away from each other. You can't tell me you agree with that. The character we are talking about has never even really screamed, and surely never done anything on the level of Blackbolt.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Yes, in both final crisis and multiversity.In final crisis it's mentioned in Superman Beyond, and then just at the end where preboot Superman "kills" Darkseid. Then it's revisited in action comics with Black Superman and the machine that their Luthor and Earth 1 Luthor has come across. This is later seen in multiversity The Justy. The frequency thing is listed in the guidebook and revisisted throughout all of multiversity.
I mentioned it in this thread about "screaming", since preboot Superman used his voice to affect it. But given how black Superman could affect it without using his voice and DCNU Superman can simply "feel" it, I guess it's not necessarily linked to him screaming or whatever, but rather his ability to vibrate 🙂
But Superman from Final Crisis isn't the Superman being debated. It doesn't matter what happened in any comic prior to the DC reboot. It's only any feat after that which would count if we are specifying DCnu Supes.
Originally posted by carver9
All I know is, if DCNU Superman and Black Bolt were standing 20 ft away from each other and both used their scream to overpower the other, Superman scream would not only overpower BB scream but it would turn BB along with the planet to ashes.
Okay so maybe you can tell me which comic Nu Superman shows he can scream with such power?
Originally posted by krisblazeClearly Superman is a more potent vibrator.
I mentioned it in this thread about "screaming", since preboot Superman used his voice to affect it. But given how black Superman could affect it without using his voice and DCNU Superman can simply "feel" it, I guess it's not necessarily linked to him screaming or whatever, but rather his ability to vibrate 🙂
Originally posted by SurturQuiet you, Superman is the best dildo ever. 👆
Come on dude, you have people going on about multiversal frequencies that have nothing to do with the specific character in question. Then you have people saying he could beat Blackbolt in a scream contest if they were standing 20 feet away from each other. You can't tell me you agree with that. The character we are talking about has never even really screamed, and surely never done anything on the level of Blackbolt.
Originally posted by carver9Maybe even the whole system 👆
All I know is, if DCNU Superman and Black Bolt were standing 20 ft away from each other and both used their scream to overpower the other, Superman scream would not only overpower BB scream but it would turn BB along with the planet to ashes.
Originally posted by Surtur
But Superman from Final Crisis isn't the Superman being debated. It doesn't matter what happened in any comic prior to the DC reboot. It's only any feat after that which would count if we are specifying DCnu Supes.
Hell, even the Flash's can.
This isn't exactly breaking news.
This is how the DC multiverse is built ffs.
Originally posted by krisblaze
I've mentioned several times that DCNU Superman and Black Superman can feel the same vibrations.Hell, even the Flash's can.
This isn't exactly breaking news.
This is how the DC multiverse is built ffs.
When was DCNu Superman shown feeling these vibrations. I don't care how the multiverse is built, I care if you have any actual examples of it.
You'd also need feats of this specific version screaming on the level of Blackbolt. Which funny enough? Nobody has come up with.
Originally posted by Surtur
When was DCNu Superman shown feeling these vibrations. I don't care how the multiverse is built, I care if you have any actual examples of it.You'd also need feats of this specific version screaming on the level of Blackbolt. Which funny enough? Nobody has come up with.
Read Morrison's action comics run, especially action comics #9.
I wouldn't, since I never made any such claims, but in the DC multiverse, if you have superhuman senses and can affect the musical pitches/octaves of your respective universe, then you can affect everything.
And Black Bolt's scream is shit.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Read Morrison's action comics run, especially action comics #9.I wouldn't, since I never made any such claims, but in the DC multiverse, if you have superhuman senses and can affect the musical pitches/octaves of your respective universe, then you can affect everything.
So you admit you have no feats of him screaming on the level of Blackbolt, that is all I need to know.
And Black Bolt's scream is shit.
The guy takes out Hulk with a whisper. DCNu Superman can not. You can feel it is shitty all you want, it never changes those facts.
It actually makes Supes look worse, if he can't even outdo a guy with a "shitty" scream? Damn, sucks for Clarky.
Originally posted by Surtur
So you admit you have no feats of him screaming on the level of Blackbolt, that is all I need to know.
He hits a particular pitch.
Like I said, this isn't something Superman does by screaming, but it is something he does using music.
Originally posted by Surtur
The guy takes out Hulk with a whisper. DCNu Superman can not. You can feel it is shitty all you want, it never changes those facts.It actually makes Supes look worse, if he can't even outdo a guy with a "shitty" scream? Damn, sucks for Clarky.
More powerful than his screams.
I'm not particularly concerned about how well Superman can scream 🙂
Okay if you aren't concerned about how well Superman can scream..what are you saying? This fight is about them screaming at each other.
Also, I again am going to ask you: show me a feat for Nu Supes singing and hitting a pitch in such a way he does destruction or hurts someone durable..on the same level BB has done. Let me be clear that is all I'm asking for, because that is all that matters. If other versions whistle and are in tune with the universe that is irrelevant. If NuSupes can supposedly hear these vibrations that also matters not. If you have an on panel feat of him whistling and destroying something, now is the time.
Note, I am not asking for feats of other versions of Superman doing this, only Nu Superman.
I mean if you aren't concerned with how well a guy can scream in a fight about him screaming that is fine, but then did you really feel we needed to hear about multiversal frequencies and all that? What does it have to do with him screaming?
Since you claimed you weren't using these example as claims for how potent his scream might be..so what the hell were they for? Either they were a roundabout way for you to say he can totally win this fight or..what were they? But okay I can easily nip this in the butt with a simple question:
Who do you feel wins this fight, and why? Note, if you aren't using the frequency examples to show he could win this scream fight..then you especially shouldn't be mentioning those in any explanation you have for why Superman would win(if you indeed feel he would).