Respect Ultimate Reed Richards (The Maker)

Started by One_Angry_Scot3 pages

Reed continues to prove a very interesting and creative character. I like the way he can talk with Thanos, he isn't treated like an underling by Thanos. More like equals. Although that is more me looking into things.

Here's to hoping he gets an even more in depth role (given that he appears on the cover for Secret Wars #3 and he is in the leaked Secret Wars #0 comic too).

Yeah, Thanos definitely seems to respect Reed. I also like that Reed is not threatened or intimidated by Thanos in the slightest.

Oh I'm sure he will play a significant role in Secret Wars, as this issue laid the foundation for an imminent war between his earth, and earth 616.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, Thanos definitely seems to respect Reed. I also like that Reed is not threatened or intimidated by Thanos in the slightest.

Oh I'm sure he will play a significant role in Secret Wars, as this issue laid the foundation for an imminent war between his earth, and earth 616.

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It's good because it isn't like one of them characters that is hedging their bets and acting like something he isn't in front of a character. He gives off the aura that he shouldn't be messed with. It's actually very rare for any character in comics (barring the high Abstracts for someone to not be intimidated by Thanos). Makes it a feat in itself.

Yeah, the more Maker/Reed the better.

So yeah, everything Maker told Fury above was(obviously) a lie created as a means to help him achieve his own goals. Maker also states that his tech has mapped ALL of time/space across the infinite multiverse:
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After Fury, and the forces of the Ultimate Universe, fail to overcome the 616 opposition(which Maker had planned on), Maker unleashes his 'Doomsday Weapons'(led by The Children), whom proceed to utterly shit-stomp everything in their path. Maker's goal is ultimately revealed when he seemingly steals(and improves) the multiversal 'Life Raft' that 616 Reed, Val, etc. etc. have been working so diligently on:
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All in all, I'd say Maker's highly evolved intelligence/tech is clearly well beyond anything 616 had to offer. Unbelievably uber.

On Battleworld, Valeria locates an object composed of what she describes as 'exotic matter'. Doctor Strange sends his Thor Police to investigate this schism... What they find is the Life Raft that was stolen/improved by The Maker:
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Yes, Maker and The Cabal survived the death of the multiverse, completely unharmed/unaltered.

Upon inadvertently opening the Life Raft, members of the Thor Police are swiftly killed by The Cabal.
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Maker emerges, and is able to instantly discern that the planet they're on(Battleworld) may have been formed secondary to the compression of all space/time during the incursion-event:
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Forgot to add this earlier...

Once Reed finally realized that the heroes would never share his [skewed] ideals on how to 'fix' the Earth and its inherent problems, he concluded that it was up to him alone to "solve everything"...

After his defeat/imprisonment in the N-Zone, Reed found a way of returning to Earth through the use of the dead brains of his alien soldiers as wetware computers for the wrecked systems of the otherwise still functional teleporter. After returning, Reed gathered together select individuals and founded a group called the Children of Tomorrow, whose aim was to create a perfect "millennial tomorrow"(which eventually blossomed into 'The City' as we have come to know it.) This officially marked the beginning of Reed's transition/evolution into The Maker:
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*In the last two scans you can see the Dome/City/Children in their earliest stages of development. It's very interesting to see how far they have all progressed since then.

Some images dont work but you should use Servimg....

I just checked all of the images. They work just fine.

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During the battle between earths 616 and 1610, Maker trapped Monica Rambeau/Spectrum in an energy opaque field to remove her from play:
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Maker and The Cabal take on the Thor Police. As you can see, Maker's shielding is capable of tanking multiple blows from Thor/Mjolnir without an issue. In the 4th scan Sue further notes that not even her force-fields could withstand repeated strikes from Mjolnir. When Doom arrives, Maker does not like his tone, lol:
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would you guys say Ultimate Reed is smarter than say T'challa and Stark?

Maker and 616 Reed are prepping to kill God Emperor Doom:
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Maker bio:

Incursion bio:
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Ultimate Universe(Reality-1610) bio:
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The armies of The Prophet/Maximus engage God Emperor Doom's forces:
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We learn that Maker was primarily responsible for orchestrating this plot against Doom, just so T'Challa and Namor could get away unnoticed with the Infinity Gauntlet, and command the Zombie horde:
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Ultimate and 616 Reed, along with Star-Lord, arrive at Castle Doom:
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Sue and Valeria catch up with the Reeds just as they are about to enter Molecule Man's chamber:
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The Reeds enter Molecule Man's chamber. Maker reveals that he was able to secretly construct a device capable of creating 'temporal bubbles' out of the primitive materials available on Battleworld. He then uses this tech to contain/devolve 616 Reed, before Owen himself intervened and stopped him:
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Wanted to save this until after Secret Wars concluded...

It is revealed that Maker(and his City AI) are still alive after the events of Secret Wars. It is also revealed that he plans on creating a new breed of antagonists called 'Neohedron':
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Maker ultimately perfects his 'Life Minus' concept and unleashes his Neohedron minions:
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Maker sheds some light on the particulars behind Life Minus, as well as the Neohedron, as he 'expands' the consciousness of one of his followers:
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Neohedron showings:
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Aside from being fairly powerful at base, Maker equipped the Neohedron with tech that allows them to become Gamma-powered with the click of a button. They can also convert/transform other lifeforms into Neohedron via specialized beams.

It is also revealed that Maker has been delving into the dark arts, and summoning magical creatures who have existed before time as a means of proving the existence of previous universes:
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Moridun: "Tell me why you call me from the dark?"
Maker: "Honestly? Just to see if I could."

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*Anywho, I'm not entirely happy that Marvel seems to heading in a mad-scientist direction with Maker. I'm afraid they are going to ruin a character that Hickman molded/built perfectly... They should have let him die with Secret Wars, imo.

So we finally get to see Maker's City AI in the flesh again(so to speak.) However, it now refers to itself as "Omnitronicus":
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It also appears that Maker still has full knowledge of the previous multiverse, and also plans to map/unify the current multiverse.

Maker can shape-shift into a completely different person in order to disguise his identity:
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Stages a fight between the White Tigers of two different universes as part of a larger experiment/test. It is also noted that his tech can record events at the quark level:
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Maker reveals that he has created a new team of minions he calls "The New Revengers":
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Maker claims that Owen Reece himself(aka. "God"😉 gave him the task of 'evolving' the Multiverse, which prompted him to team-up with the High-Evolutionary in order to gain access to his evo-tech... Tech he would later amp heavily:
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Maker possesses extremely detailed knowledge of the new multiversal superstructure(ie. the Eighth Cosmos), and at a critical juncture of cosmic events, actually collapses the entire cosmos/multiverse into a singular universe... Moreover, he also made a few 'minor' changes to the new cosmology, and resurrected the Ultimates:
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After revealing that he could destroy what he had [re]created(a fact he, sadly, demonstrated on Ult. Cap), the heroes manage to temporarily incapacitate Maker via application of absolute zero, which halted ALL of his molecular motion:
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Ult. Tony: "If anything can stop Richards, it's that... But that's quite an 'IF.'" (ie. we obviously haven't seen the last of him.)

High-Evolutionary(who is one of THE top intellects in Marvel across the board) admits that not even he could begin to comprehend his own tech once Maker had modified/amped/evolved it...

H-E: "I don't know, Dr. Brashear... These are my machines -- but [Maker] has taken everything so much further... I'm not sure I can even work the controls anymore.":
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*It ended up taking the entire Ultimates roster(+H-E) just to properly utilize Maker's tech.

...Maker's intellect is absolutely staggering, tbh. At this point I don't really think it's that debatable: Maker is THE top mind in Marvel, imho. 👆