Gay marriage debate

Started by bluewaterrider4 pages
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
What? Is this really a question or are you joking? We are free to do as we wish as long as we don't hurt or infringe upon another persons freedom. I thought that went without saying considering the context.

That was really a question.
No, I was not joking.
I do not agree that we are free to do as we wish.
However, what you mean by this phrase might differ from what I would use that phrase to mean.

And I presented 2 pages ago, the view of a man who ALSO disagrees that we are free to do as we wish, let alone where an institution like marriage is concerned.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I presented 2 pages ago, the view of a man who ALSO disagrees that we are free to do as we wish ...

Sorry -- that article by Thomas Sowell was presented 3 pages ago as of now ...

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I do not agree that we are free to do as we wish.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
That was really a question.
No, I was not joking.
I do not agree that we are free to do as we wish.
However, what you mean by this phrase might differ from what I would use that phrase to mean.

And I presented 2 pages ago, the view of a man who ALSO disagrees that we are free to do as we wish, let alone where an institution like marriage is concerned.

by "free to do as we wish" I mean we can do whatever we want as long as we don't infringe upon another persons rights/freedoms and/or harm other people.

As for the article you posted about the man who doesn't think we are free to do as we wish in regards to marriage....well hes wrong. Its fine that he has that opinion but its wrong.

For example I am a human just as you are. Our beliefs, sexual preferences, skin color...ect doesn't change that. As living sentient beings we all are equal. None are less and none are more. There isn't a reason that anyone should be able to impede on another humans rights if its not hurting anyone else. This is hurting nobody. It is however making people who want to do it happy. It is simply ignorant to think people should be denied rights simply because other people think they shouldn't be allowed to have those rights.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
There isn't a reason that anyone should be able to impede on another humans rights if its not hurting anyone else. This is hurting nobody.

There are also muddied areas such as euthanasia where the problem is more about the potential harm than the actual harm.

Originally posted by Bentley
There are also muddied areas such as euthanasia where the problem is more about the potential harm than the actual harm.

Personally I am pro Euthanasia. I mean there has to be a structure with a certain set of rules for it but that is another debate altogether I guess lol

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Personally I am pro Euthanasia. I mean there has to be a structure with a certain set of rules for it but that is another debate altogether I guess lol

Indeed!

It was a nitpick, there are things wrong because they cause actual harm and then are those judged on their potential harm. For example, taboos such as incest and pedophilia are mostly censured because their potential harm and difficult to properly assess their effects a priori. Euthanasia was a more mainstream example.

Gay marriage is awesome.