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Originally posted by Branlor Swift
No it wasn't. It was just a high frequency sonic. And it was due to the pain it generated, not due to some nerve shit or some special attack.
Even though it was in lesser quantities, it was hitting the others surrounding and they said it hurts worse than a headache while moving and functioning. It was not a special attack tailor made for Juggernaut. it was just a powerful sonic.Essentially, Juggernaut got KO'ed by pain by sound
Which besides the initial damaging aspect of it, BB's voice seems to put out a heavy sound aspect considering the ringing in Hulk's ears KO's him.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/29361/671478-ashley.jpgHulk who's shown much better resistance to sonic attacks than Juggernaut.
It wasn't a high frequency sonic. Nimrod just stopped neural impulses going to Juggs brain.
He was around for the whole time unitl that one moment.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot[B]V. Fights.
So here it is what you've been waiting for Nimrods battles. Remember as I said I will give a description of each battle after the scams as it is critical in relation to Nimrod.
Nimrod vs Juggernaut
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*Nimrod can hold Juggernaut in place via levitation and hit him so hard that he says he thought only the Hulk himself could pull such a stunt.
*As I mentioned previously we can see that he can lift 1.37 Kilotons of steel which is equivalent to over 1000 tons. And it didn't look like a strenuous task to him either.
*Nimrod can sense mid battle that other X-Men are arriving, he can detect Nightcrawler teleporting to a specific destination and apply a blast to that exact location.
*He can also create a forcefield that not even Wolverines claws can cut through.
*And we see that he was repelled back onto the ground with a heavy amount of force that he was rendered insensitive.
*Nimrod can also tell how long he has until he will no longer be bale to kill Wolverine (i.e when his healing factor can eventually take effect)
*He uses a synapse dislocuter to block neural signals to Juggernauts brain, paralysing him.
*What we see next is I think Rogue. Colossus and Nightcrawler merged into one taking on Nimrod. Nimrod fails to detect them this time as this is a new entity. But he soon learns to adapt...
*What we next see is the amalgam exploiting the same trick used against Magus to destroy Nimrod but Nimrod already regenerated. The amalgam of the 3 suggests that he might even have the ability to control his body at the molecular level.[/B]
Originally posted by krisblaze
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Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
It wasn't a high frequency sonic. Nimrod just stopped neural impulses going to Juggs brain.He was around for the whole time unitl that one moment.
His sonics were never said to have done that. That's just keeping him asleep if anything. He was generating psionic fields that whole battle as to keep Rachel from contacting the X-Men. Him jamming Juggernaut as an aside to that attack is completely possible considering Juggernaut got up as soon as he left. And he could effectively figure out when Wolverine would awake right before he hit Juggs. Wanting to keep him down would be the right thing to do.
Especially when he says the sonics cause the pain to make him incapable, and the synapse dislocuter blocks the neural impulses from his brain to his body. Unless it just constantly keeps him in pain afterwards, it isn't blocking his neural impulses.
Even if the sonic didn't put him down however, that should still be enough to stun him while running.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Maybe. Though the helmet is an issue, but I mean, why would it block sonics? Hell, that skullcap should have more ear protection than the helmet, but I digress.Though BB would definitely fair better in a fight than this sort of contest. Just thought it'd be something to bring up.
But it's pretty phucking plain as day that Nimrod deliberately removed the helmet before hitting Juggernaut with that sonic attack.
And then we see that the only reason Juggernaut stays down is because of the neural inhibitor thing.
Originally posted by krisblazeHe just kind of slapped it off though. There wasn't really effort to get it off
They didn't say.But it's pretty phucking plain as day that Nimrod deliberately removed the helmet before hitting Juggernaut with that sonic attack.
And then we see that the only reason Juggernaut stays down is because of the neural inhibitor thing.
Stays down for a nice length of time. But we saw him get heavily impacted by the pain of the beam itself. And then he just sat there.
We've also seen Juggernaut get effected by other things that would bother his brain outside of telepathy though. Teleporting left him in a lump for instance. If that can screw up his brain, I've no doubts a scream could. Though the helmet again could be an issue.
Outside of the scream screwing up his ears though, Juggernaut seems more durable when he's in motion. Example being the Godblast. So unless the scream blows out his ears, it's probably not doing much.
Originally posted by riv6672I suppose the indestructible environment is supposed to account for it but this scenario is hard to predict.
So we have a very specific, obviously prepped Nimrod attack, the indestructible environment not fully taken into account when discussing Juggernaut's ability to reach BB...still picking J over BB.
In comics though, we'd know what'd happen. Juggernaut could very well want/be able to charge through, but with a true scream, his footing would be blown away and Juggernaut would just be carried off with the rest of the debris.
Originally posted by One_Angry_ScotThanks for posting those scans my friend,i have the book but would have to dig half a day to find it.Nimrod was almost unbeatable there,and shows even Juggs can be overcome with the right tools!
It wasn't a high frequency sonic. Nimrod just stopped neural impulses going to Juggs brain.He was around for the whole time unitl that one moment.
Also I would like to point out.
Originally posted by zom1967Thanos waded through Blackbolts scream with no problem(although I have heard this might have been a skrull,the power was still there).It was an impressive feat and I think Thanos durability even tanks Juggs.
Thanks for posting those scans my friend,i have the book but would have to dig half a day to find it.Nimrod was almost unbeatable there,and shows even Juggs can be overcome with the right tools!
Re: Also I would like to point out.
Originally posted by zom1967Thanos did not wade through Black Bolt's first scream at all. He got blown off his feet and the rest of Attilan just blew up.
Thanos waded through Blackbolts scream with no problem(although I have heard this might have been a skrull,the power was still there).It was an impressive feat and I think Thanos durability even tanks Juggs.
And Thanos did not wade through a weakened follow-up voice attack with "no problem." Thanos surely pushed through it, but Thanos' defenses appeared to be exhausted in the effort. Few characters have pierced through Thanos' defenses like Black Bolt did. And Maximus revealed later that Black Bolt's powers were weakened upon detonation of the Terrigen Bomb.
Re: Re: Also I would like to point out.
Originally posted by ODG
And Maximus revealed later that Black Bolt's powers were weakened upon detonation of the Terrigen Bomb.
I read the comic but don't really remember this.
I think Bran's been telling people he wasn't depowered and Carter's always on the other side of that argument....
I never said anything like that. BB was fully powered on his first scream. The rest were apparently half screams.
Carver argues that BB's screams were weakened the entire time.
Thanos just kind of stood there while everything blew apart while he was getting damaged. But even the half power screams seemed to do more than Thor's mega cheapshot.
