So going by Filoni's "levels"

He said Kanan and the crew are Level 3, maybe reached Level 4 End of season 1. Vader is a whopping level 80. Where would you rank other Jedi/Sith using this level, assuming level 100 is the max?

It was fun downplaying Bane while it lasted, but he would rape the Ghost crew.

Not if they bring some mercenaries

Originally posted by The Merchant
He said Kanan and the crew are Level 3, maybe reached Level 4 End of season 1. Vader is a whopping level 80. Where would you rank other Jedi/Sith using this level, assuming level 100 is the max?

Convenient he gave Vader an 80, when Lucas said Vader was 80% of Palpatine. Guess everyone's "level" is their percentage measurement against Palpatine's 100.

Anyway I guess that puts Old Ben in the 70-75 range. He was after all stalemating Vader in ANH.

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As I remember, you consider Vader as stronger then Dooku or Mace. So, at that point is Ben equal or superior to them as well? And what's Maul's % in your opinion?

Personally I find this whole "levels" thing to be kind of dumb. NOBODY performs at their absolute best every single time. Even Man. United have bad games sometimes. Conversely look at Scout's match against Chizzik, she notes that usually they were about even but he was on especially good form that day.

Even if we assume that said characters are at their "usual" level, there's still a ton of other factors to consider. Environmental hazards, location, other priorities, tactics, etc. It's not as simple as "A is level 7 and B is level 6 so A wins."

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Yeah, sure thing. That's why Obi-Wan was able to to fight equally with Maul and Savage at once. Same thing might be told about Mace and Sora's duel.
But overall, Mace is above Sora, and brothers combined are far above Kenobi.

But basing on all feats and statements, we should be able to succesfully rank those all guys.

Originally posted by McP
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As I remember, you consider Vader as stronger then Dooku or Mace. So, at that point is Ben equal or superior to them as well? And what's Maul's % in your opinion?

It's hard to compare different generations tbh which is why I largely avoid those debates nowadays. But I do think Vader probably has superior Tk to Dooku or Windu. And don't forget I'm still rating Old Ben a bit below Vader.

Maul was pretty equal to Late TCW/ROTS Kenobi last we saw him. No idea how good he'll be when we see him next.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Convenient he gave Vader an 80, when Lucas said Vader was 80% of Palpatine.

What's even more interesting is that 80 split in half is 40, which is the age Kasdan was when he wrote ESB!

Half Life 3 confirmed.

100: Palpatine, Luke

90: Vitiate, Yoda

80: Vader, Windu

70: Ob-wan, Maul

I'm pretty sure Filoni was just exaggerating to make his point that Vader's way above them. It shouldn't be used as an official power level.

100 Palpatine, Plagueis, Caedus

50 Kolar, Malgus, Ulic

10 Commander Gree, Sora Bulq, Darth Reave

1 The Inquisitor, Kanan, Ezra

-100 Vitiate, Nihilus, Bane

@ KJ
Who knows, in other interview, he stated Vader to be level 50:

http://www.starwars.com/news/interview-dave-filoni-on-star-wars-rebels-part-3

Well it should be used.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
I'm pretty sure Filoni was just exaggerating to make his point that Vader's way above them. It shouldn't be used as an official power level.

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Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Convenient he gave Vader an 80, when Lucas said Vader was 80% of Palpatine. Guess everyone's "level" is their percentage measurement against Palpatine's 100.

Anyway I guess that puts Old Ben in the 70-75 range. He was after all stalemating Vader in ANH.

It's a coincidence. In another quote he said Kanan was a level 5 and Vader was like a "level 50 or so". Clearly it was just a random number.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
It's a coincidence. In another quote he said Kanan was a level 5 and Vader was like a "level 50 or so". Clearly it was just a random number.

I know. They usually are random numbers. In fact I'm sure Lucas's own 80% of Palpatine was also pretty random and not an exact Official rating.

Take it about as seriously as power levels in Dragon Ball/Yu Yu Hakusho either way.

Because that's basically what "percentage of Sidious" or "RPG levels" are.

Always got a chuckle out of people trying to derive how powerful characters are via power levels by taking percentage of such and such's power level compared to another's.

As if the relationship was treated as linear.

That's how you end up with planet razing farmer with shotgun :maybe

Originally posted by The Merchant
He said Kanan and the crew are Level 3, maybe reached Level 4 End of season 1. Vader is a whopping level 80. Where would you rank other Jedi/Sith using this level, assuming level 100 is the max?

Where did Filoni say that?

In an interview on the season finale of Rebels.