I guess my issue is, the article assumes this suspect was subdued with a taser despite what happened to Eric Garner. What if instead it happened in part because of it? Is it that far fetched to think that some cops who in the past might of been a bit more trigger happy..might be thinking twice about how quickly they resort to that option due to all the recent deaths in the media like Garner's and others?
You don't even have to necessarily think the cops are doing it because they are good people. It could be as simple as they don't want all the attention and scrutiny that comes with cases like this.
Originally posted by KingD19
They get away with it so often I'd be surprised if a majority don't give a shit because it seems that almost every single time, they escape any actual punishment aside from bad publicity.
But for some avoiding the bad publicity would be enough reason to avoid doing it. Think about it, not every racist cop is necessarily a stupid racist cop. Some of these guys have had to deal with death threats against them, their families, and other cops that work with them.
Also look at recent things happening. We've had cops killing people, but more recently we had instances of people targeting cops specifically as some misplaced form of vengeance for these crimes. The recent cops in Ferguson survived, the ones shot in NYC did not.
I'll help the conversation along:
Mentioning Eric Garner in the article is click bait. The article is click bait. People who already agree with the opinions in the article are going to click it, read it, and nod their head in approval. People who don't will roll their eyes and groan.
That article is cherry-picking as are some of you. Compare one case of a white guy with one case of a black guy and make a sensational title. Hooray! The site gets hits!
Watch, I can do that same silly bullshit that "news" site did (and this is why cherry picking can be seen as a logical fallacy):
Reginald and Jonathan Carr; who assaulted, raped, robbed, and murdered 5 people; are still alive while Dillon Taylor is still dead.
Oh my gosh! The inhumanity of it all! Black people are soooo bad and white people treated soooo poorly!!! Why, America?
Originally posted by dadudemonNo link, you're obviously a racist buffoon.
I'll help the conversation along:Mentioning Eric Garner in the article is click bait. The article is click bait. People who already agree with the opinions in the article are going to click it, read it, and nod their head in approval. People who don't will roll their eyes and groan.
That article is cherry-picking as are some of you. Compare one case of a white guy with one case of a black guy and make a sensational title. Hooray! The site gets hits!
Watch, I can do that same silly bullshit that "news" site did (and this is why cherry picking can be seen as a logical fallacy):
[b]Reginald and Jonathan Carr; who assaulted, raped, robbed, and murdered 5 people; are still alive while Dillon Taylor is still dead.
Oh my gosh! The inhumanity of it all! Black people are soooo bad and white people treated soooo poorly!!! Why, America? [/B]
Reported.
Originally posted by Robtardfirst and foremost.
LoL, this guy again. It's an illegal chokehold for officers to use since it can lead to serious harm and/or death. Go figure.Garner died from asphyxiation. So where's your proof that a taser would have killed him?
IT ISNT ILLEGAL
It's not allowed by Sop but that doesn't make it illegal.
The fact he wasn't choked to death, he died because he was in such poor shape that lying facedown compressed his lungs and because of his weakened heart from the heart disease he died.
I'm not sure how Taser and bad heart don't send a red flag up for you but I'll blame your schooling and the state for it.
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
first and foremost.IT ISNT ILLEGAL
It's not allowed by Sop but that doesn't make it illegal.The fact he wasn't choked to death, he died because he was in such poor shape that lying facedown compressed his lungs and because of his weakened heart from the heart disease he died.
I'm not sure how Taser and bad heart don't send a red flag up for you but I'll blame your schooling and the state for it.
My error, "prohibited". The officer used a "prohibited" choke hold. So calm down, racist.
Proof?
Proof Garner had all this and that he would have died from a taser? Cos we do know he did die from the way he was handled.
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Yep your wrong. And continue to be wrong because your a blatant racist.The autopsy... Choking causes hematoma to form around the eyes.
Again he had an autopsy, he died as a direct result from his heart disease.
The word you're looking for is "you're" and calling me a racist won't hide your racism, silly-deflection-man.
More claims without proof posted.
IOW: "It's not Officer's Pantaleo's fault that Garner was a lazy out of shape black bum who couldn't take a choke hold that shouldn't have been used in the first place!" ie more boot-strap licking excuses and victim blaming.
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
first and foremost.IT ISNT ILLEGAL
It's not allowed by Sop but that doesn't make it illegal.The fact he wasn't choked to death, he died because he was in such poor shape that lying facedown compressed his lungs and because of his weakened heart from the heart disease he died.
I'm not sure how Taser and bad heart don't send a red flag up for you but I'll blame your schooling and the state for it.
I was okay with what you were doing until I read that very last phrase in your post.
Here is your post corrected with proper spelling and punctuation because you may not have received a proper education. This is a service I offer to you, free of charge.
First and foremost, IT ISN'T ILLEGAL. It's not allowed by some Standard Operating Procedures (SOPs) but that doesn't make it illegal.The fact is, he wasn't choked to death. He died because he was in such poor shape that lying face-down compressed his lungs. Because of his weakened heart from heart disease, he died.
I'm not sure how "taser" and "bad heart" don't send a red flag up for you but I blame your education and the state for it.
IIRC, from the video it looked like excessive force to me. If a person has a bad heart and is out of shape, that only makes them like millions of other people. The police are supposed to, ideally, use only the force required to subdue someone.
Everything I read, see and am told about police in America is that far too many of them will use any excuse to go above and beyond, to "flex their muscles" etc.
It's just isolated incidents, right? Seriously, someone reassure me before I decide not to in fact visit the place.
Originally posted by Robtardyou are blatantly racist. You only care because of the race aspect.
The word you're looking for is "you're" and calling me a racist won't hide your racism, silly-deflection-man.More claims without proof posted.
IOW: "It's not Officer's Pantaleo's fault that Garner was a lazy out of shape black bum who couldn't take a choke hold that shouldn't have been used in the first place!" ie more boot-strap licking excuses and victim blaming.
In the order of esculation of force: H2h comes before less than lethal weapons. A taser is an esculation.
Iyo: dem white cops should have bought all his loosies because theoretically some guy he doesn't know at some point though, "hmm that guy is a lesser being based on the color of his skin."
He didn't die from some outlandish event, all the bs around this does is lessen people's apathy when real acts of institutionalize do racism, like voter zoning changes; actually happen.
Re: Amazing, tasers can be used to subdue a suspect
Originally posted by Robtard
[b]White Supremacist Mass Shooter Arrested Alive; Eric Garner Still Dead"Giroux’s rampage began at the Tri City Inn, where he shot three people — a male, who died at the scene, and two women, who were wounded. He then ran across the street to a nearby café, where he shot another man, who was treated by emergency medical personnel at the scene of the first shooting. Giroux then carjacked a woman, drove to a nearby motel, and pulled into an apartment complex. He then shot another man in the parking lot, broke into an apartment across the street, and broke in. Two hours later, Mesa police successfully captured Giroux using Tasers." -snip
Full Story Here [/B]
Black people are particularly resistant to tasers. However, they seem to be especially vulnerable to guns, and if they have asthma, choke holds .
Originally posted by -Pr-
Seriously, someone reassure me before I decide not to in fact visit the place.
I have never been touched by a police officer except for a friendly handshake or a pat on the back.
But [1]I'm white as **** and clearly [2]not poor. Those 2 reasons are great ways to avoid getting into any trouble with the police.
Dress nicely. They'll always treat you better. 🙂
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
... You realize misquoting in grammar is a cardinal sin.You also didn't indent the first paragraph...
I have no idea what your first sentence means. That's too poorly formed to be a coherent thought.
As for the second part, that's not how you're supposed to write on forums, blogs, etc. Take a technical writing class in college: you don't use paragraph indentations on these types of things. By the way, this same rule applies to e-mails: double space instead of indentation for paragraphs. Now, you may be wondering why you are wrong. That's due to word processors, monitors, and display drivers formatting non-breaking spaces differently. To avoid clunky or even messy spacing, electronic-only writings use double spacing between paragraphs: not indentations.
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
..can we agree that applying acedimia standards to a forum response is never going to fly?
No, we cannot agree. The moment you make fun of someone for their writing ability and education, someone like me will come along and rip you a new *sshole: glass house.
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
you are blatantly racist. You only care because of the race aspect.In the order of esculation of force: H2h comes before less than lethal weapons. A taser is an esculation.
Iyo: dem white cops should have bought all his loosies because theoretically some guy he doesn't know at some point though, "hmm that guy is a lesser being based on the color of his skin."
He didn't die from some outlandish event, all the bs around this does is lessen people's apathy when real acts of institutionalize do racism, like voter zoning changes; actually happen.
"You" should be capitalized and your statement doesn't make sense.
You know what doesn't come before a taser? A prohibited choke. You also misspelled "escalation" wrong, not once, but twice.
Nice, keep making racist comments, that will prove you're not a bigot. 👆
Third time you dodged posting proof.
Originally posted by dadudemonI didn't make fun of his writing, please re-read it; I made fun of stating a taser would have been a safer method of takedown than the headlock. I pointed out multiple times he has a heart condition.
I have no idea what your first sentence means. That's too poorly formed to be a coherent thought.As for the second part, that's not how you're supposed to write on forums, blogs, etc. Take a technical writing class in college: you don't use paragraph indentations on these types of things. By the way, this same rule applies to e-mails: double space instead of indentation for paragraphs. Now, you may be wondering why you are wrong. That's due to word processors, monitors, and display drivers formatting non-breaking spaces differently. To avoid clunky or even messy spacing, electronic-only writings use double spacing between paragraphs: not indentations.
No, we cannot agree. The moment you make fun of someone for their writing ability and education, someone like me will come along and rip you a new *sshole: glass house.
Taser + Heart Condition = Death + explaining why you tased an unarmed person.
I'm sorry on the first point context alludes you. But please stay on topic or create a "you know what grinds my gears: grammar" thread in the forum.