Cosmic Armor Superman Vs Ivory Kings

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Are you going to sick the wonder twins on me!

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
[B]WATCH YOURSELF, BOY! [/B]
Form of a bucket of water,form of an eagle to carry a bucket of water to freeze the almighty Galactus,give me a break D.C is for kids!

Re: Are you going to sick the wonder twins on me!

Originally posted by zom1967
Form of a bucket of water,form of an eagle to carry a bucket of water to freeze the almighty Galactus,give me a break D.C is for kids!

DC is the well-spring from which Marvel flows.

Never forget this.

Originally posted by Sj_Sharp

At the end of the day, every plane of existence of the DCU is just so insignificant and inconsequential if compared to Dax/CA that it's really mindblowing
With the exception of the 5th dimension, that is. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
With the exception of the 5th dimension, that is. 👆

But doesn't the Monitors' realm encopass the whole DCU?
In fact, from what I can recall, besides the multiverse (Orrery), everything else (included, for example, even the "Word of the Voice"😉 was within the Monitors' sphere, while outside of that there's only the Primal Monitor (white page), and the CA e Dax (the two biggest and powerful concepts) fought on the edge of the page itself.
So, shouldn't the 5th dimension being encompassed below the Monitors' realm as well?

^ Morrison's take on the multiverse implies that the 5th dimension=thought itself(both fictional and RL.) Thought/imagination transcends ALL fictional realms--hence why the 5th-D isn't included on his Map.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Per Morrison's take on the multiverse, the 5th dimension=thought itself(both fictional and RL.) Thought/imagination transcends ALL fictional realms.

Did you ever state who you thought would win between an Ivory King or Kings vs the Thought Robot?

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Morrison's take on the multiverse implies that the 5th dimension=thought itself(both fictional and RL.) Thought/imagination transcends ALL fictional realms--hence why the 5th-D isn't included on his Map.

^Thanks for that. 👆
But in his own map, it's stated that the PM is a limit even to Thought (which makes sense, since it is the white page where nothing is still yet written), so they can't be above that; still the first probe and the CA are thought as well (it's even in the CA own "name"😉, and the edge of the Overvoid is where they fought (and even the Monitors are thought after all, no?).
From all of this, what I understand makes "hard" for me to rank the 5th dimensional beings in Morrison's hierarchy: they are clearly not in the map, still the PM is a limit even for thought itself and Dax/CA are thoughts/concepts themselves fighting at the edge of the map.
So where do they actually stand?
(I beg pardon for the off-topic 😮 ).

The PM itself must have an awareness/sentience--that is, after all, how/why it initially recognized the 'flaw' within itself, and manifested Probes to examine the flaw accordingly... So even the PM is composed of thought on *some* level(however abstract.)

But yeah, this is just me running with the somewhat vague definition of the 5th dimension that Morrison gave us. It is certainly open to opinion/subject to change. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
The PM itself must have an awareness/sentience--that is, after all, how/why it initially recognized the 'flaw' within itself, and manifested Probes to examine the flaw accordingly... So even the PM is composed of thought on *some* level(however abstract.)

But yeah, this is just me running with the somewhat vague definition of the 5th dimension that Morrison gave us. It is certainly open to opinion/subject to change. 👆


Didn't Quantum Superman refer to 8th Dimension and Doesn't it seem to be within the Orrery of the worlds?
If 8th Dimension is within the orrery, Doesn't it mean that 5th Dimension is within the orrery?

Originally posted by CatL18
Didn't Quantum Superman refer to 8th Dimension and Doesn't it seem to be within the Orrery of the worlds?
If 8th Dimension is within the orrery, Doesn't it mean that 5th Dimension is within the orrery?
The Orrery of Worlds is comprised of 52 alternate earths, which represent 52 different 3-D universes. So no, the 5th and 8th dimensions would definitely not be there.

Originally posted by Galan007
The Orrery of Worlds is comprised of 52 alternate earths, which represent 52 different 3-D universes. So no, the 5th and 8th dimensions would definitely not be there.

Sorry, I haven't heard that orrery include 3D only.
Is there proof?

Originally posted by CatL18
Sorry, I haven't heard that orrery include 3D only.
Is there proof?

Galan is just one-dimensional so don't expect him to understand what 3D ist.

biscuits

Originally posted by CatL18
Sorry, I haven't heard that orrery include 3D only.
Is there proof?
For starters, the fact that the Orrery is a plane of actuality below the New Gods' sphere?

Originally posted by Galan007
For starters, the fact that the Orrery is a plane of actuality below the New Gods' sphere?

But Doesn't House of Heroes rotate about a fixed point in the fifth dimension?

◾The House of Heroes – the base of operations for the Monitors, extra-dimensional creatures who observe and guard the continuity of the multiverse. It is able to access all the realities of the DC multiverse as it rotates about a fixed point in the fifth dimension. Also named Valla-Hal, or The Multiversity

And Wasn't there reference to Breed that is higher-dimensional fluid medium in Multiversity #1?

^ None of the above implies that the 5th dimension is housed within the Orrery itself.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ None of the above implies that the 5th dimension is housed within the Orrery itself.

But if Bleed is entire 5th dimensional space, doesn't it mean that zyrff is there in the somewhere of the bleed space?
And Bleed is within the orrery,so Doesn't this means that 5th dimension is within the orrery?
Atleast, in multiversity#1 there is statement that Bleed is some sort of 5th dimensional, isn't it?
so at least, Zyrff can't be outside or above Monitorspace or Overvoid itself, I think.

The Bleed is the 'fluid' space between universes within the Orrery. The Bleed is not the 5th dimension.

We'll just stop here. 👆

It was specifically mentioned in the actual book that it was 52 universes.

Does making things up about that mini make people feel smarter or something? It was a good mini but the sort of shit people make up about it is just the worst.

Some people just want to act like they 'get it' more than you or I.

If we disagree with what they say, then we just aren't abstract thinkers.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
It was specifically mentioned in the actual book that it was 52 universes.

Does making things up about that mini make people feel smarter or something? It was a good mini but the sort of shit people make up about it is just the worst.

anytime you say something smart i think you're making things up. do you feel smarter? 😐