She was already dominating the fight, at one point blasting him with kinetite attacks. Another point trapping him with plant surge and ragdolled him a few times.
She almost killed him, landing three direct hits on him before he could react, then by sheer dumb instinct he managed to stop his skull being split in half and stabbed her. Something he didn't even intend to do.
What about the part where Galen was weakened as per the novel? I'm sure that was discussed at length not too long ago.
And yes, yes, "Ti is a beacon of light", doesn't change the fact there was explicit mention of Galen being weakened. And he had a Sarlacc slapping him with it's multiple dicks
Ti had some unfair edges in that bout.
Originally posted by AncientPower
She was already dominating the fight, at one point blasting him with kinetite attacks. Another point trapping him with plant surge and ragdolled him a few times.She almost killed him, landing three direct hits on him before he could react, then by sheer dumb instinct he managed to stop his skull being split in half and stabbed her. Something he didn't even intend to do.
But... if she was dominating the fight then why would she resort to a suicide attack? 😬
She was clearly unable to defeat him and desperate. Eventually he'd overcome her, through sheer attrition more than anything.
Originally posted by AncientPowerWas she really dominating him? She held a skill edge over him the vast majority of the duel, but he was still capable of deflecting her onslaught, albeit with great difficulty.
She was already dominating the fight, at one point blasting him with kinetite attacks. Another point trapping him with plant surge and ragdolled him a few times.
I don't really remember her doing the rest of the things you mentioned? Is that in the novel?
Originally posted by AncientPowerIndeed. Except, the passage notes that that last assault had been a desperate attempt by Ti to break his guard, and that she had perhaps meant for them to defeat each other at the same time.
She almost killed him, landing three direct hits on him before he could react, then by sheer dumb instinct he managed to stop his skull being split in half and stabbed her. Something he didn't even intend to do.
Originally posted by ILS
What about the part where Galen was weakened as per the novel? I'm sure that was discussed at length not too long ago.And yes, yes, "Ti is a beacon of light", doesn't change the fact there was explicit mention of Galen being weakened. And he had a Sarlacc slapping him with it's multiple dicks
Ti had some unfair edges in that bout.
He was weakened but how much is highly debatable.
Ti used the Saarlac via her own powerd, if anything that is only a showing of her abilities to use her environment against opponents.
Originally posted by Nephthys
But... if she was dominating the fight then why would she resort to a suicide attack? 😬She was clearly unable to defeat him and desperate. Eventually he'd overcome her, through sheer attrition more than anything.
It wasn't suicide it was an attempt to break the deadlock which Galen was incredibly fortunate to survive.
Simple fact is that Ti showed superior lightsaber skill and Force mastery in their fight. Taking into account her efforts to subvert the Dark Side of the Force present there then it is still very impressive.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
Was she really dominatinghim? She held a skill edge over him the vast majority of the duel, but he was still capable of deflecting her onslaught, albeit with great difficulty.I don't really remember her doing the rest of the things you mentioned? Is that in the novel?
Indeed. Except, the passage notes that that last assault had been a desperate attempt by Ti to break his guard, and that she had perhaps meant for them to defeat each other at the same time.
Which is impressive in and of itself considering that earlier in the novel he had sufficient capability in Form III Soresu to successfully block Darth Vader's full efforts in a spar.
Read the comic book in which she uses a vast array of Force Powers to dominate him.
Indeed she tried to break the dead lock, gave him three successive injuries with her blade, before he had to rely on instinct to telekinetically block her decapitation attempt. She was winning the fight very clearly, his survival was not based in his power or his skill but instinct.
Originally posted by ILS
Sure, but then it detracts from how much dueling skill was involved on her part.
Not at all, the actual involvement of the Saarlac didn't exactly shape her efforts. When it comes right down to it, she was faster and more skilled in each part of their duel. An Ataru/Makashi hybrid master swordswoman would be.
Originally posted by AncientPowerHm, I was unaware of both of those. Still, in all honesty, I wouldn't put TFU Vader above Asajj Ventress in dueling skill, personally.
Which is impressive in and of itself considering that earlier in the novel he had sufficieny capability in Form III Soresu to successfully block Darth Vader's full efforts in a spar.Read the comic book in which she uses a vast array of Force Powers to dominate him.
Originally posted by AncientPowerSo, they were deadlocking yet she was very clearly winning? If her victory was so clear and inevitable I find it hard to believe she would've been "desperate" to pierce his guard. I think they're more on par than what you're suggesting.
Indeed she tried to break the dead lock, gave him three successive injuries with her blade, before he had to rely on instinct to telekinetically block her decapitation attempt. She was winning the fight very clearly, his survival was not based in his power or his skill but instinct.
Originally posted by AncientPowerIt seems Shaak Ti actually held the strength advantage: "The apprentice simultaneously backflipped and blocked the opening blow. The force of it surprised him, and the recoil threw him backward." Or at least, if he somehow did have a strength advantage it'd be negligible at best.
It was more that he just wouldn't die, durability and all of that, the one thing Galen takes emphatically against her is physical strength and durability. So yes she got desperate because after a severe pounding he was still going.
Luminara, though, has great strength feats and is likely a better Soresu practitioner than Galen at that time. And I think it would be quite amusing to see a lesser Soresu practioner trying to defend against one that is superior. Assuming Luminara would go on the offensive. Luminara is also durable asf, too, so yeah. All supposed advantages Galen had against Ti he doesn't have against Luminara.
I'm not even saying Luminara could beat Ti, just that in the saber department they are at the very least comparable.
I wouldn't say they aren't comparable, simply that Ti is better. Do remember that Darth Vader incorporates his own extensive mastery of Soresu into his style and is the one that taught Galen the form in the first place. Galen is highly skilled in Juyo, Sith Shien and Soresu.
Shaak Ti was more than capable of applying Makashi in their fight and exploit it's strength over Form III.
More importantly, Shaak Ti could take on Galen's Force Power and match it with her own. Any Jedi Master that could do that... well let us just say Darth Vader's high opinion of her is certainly founded in feats.
Originally posted by AncientPowerTi may very well be better, I'm totally not denying that. Just saying basically that people should take another look at Luminara. They're not too far apart, if at all.
I wouldn't say they aren't comparable, simply that Ti is better. Do remember that Darth Vader incorporates his own extensive mastery of Soresu into his style and is the one that taught Galen the form in the first place. Galen is highly skilled in Juyo, Sith Shien and Soresu.
Yes, I'm aware. But Galen hasn't mastered to the extent Unduli has, and Unduli's physicality grants her the ability to become more effective with using Soresu. And Luminara is also adept at Form V.
Originally posted by AncientPowerSource saying Makashi holds an edge over Soresu? It hardly matters, though. Luminara has experience dealing with it, and judging Barriss' apparent skill with it it wouldn't be a stretch to assume Unduli has at least a moderate understanding of the form.
Shaak Ti was more than capable of applying Makashi in their fight and exploit it's strength over Form III.
Originally posted by AncientPowerAgreed.
More importantly, Shaak Ti could take on Galen's Force Power and match it with her own. Any Jedi Master that could do that... well let us just say Darth Vader's high opinion of her is certainly founded in feats.