Darth Nihilus vs. Darth Nox

How, Legend?

How would the gravity affect the nexus on Malachor? I'm sure that The Force doesn't give two shits about what gravity does.

It makes it harder to lift the Ravager off the planet.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It makes it harder to lift the Ravager off the planet.

Why would it be hard with The Force? Was it ever noted as such?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Incorrect. Read the below statements:

"Darth Nihilus' dark will held the vessel and its crew together."
―The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia

"Darth Nihilus, using only the dark side, holds the ship together from his command post on the bridge."
―Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords Prima Guide

He also telekinetically lifted the ship from Malachor V, an extreme gravity vertex:

"The Ravager was hauled from the gravity well at Malachor V by its new master. He used it to escape imprisonment on Malachor V."
―Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic: The Sith Lords

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As of the last one it doesn't say how he got the ship off Malahor. Would make sense that he either fixed engines or made someone to fix it. Without working ship and hyperspace he would not get off Malachor system.

It's a bunch of gravity wells that crushed an entire fleet and the planet within itself. That kind implies massive amounts of force that is pulling the ship down back towards the core. Sort of like how it did the ships in game. Saying, "Teh Force," doesn't negate any of that from anything shown in game.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Why would it be hard with The Force? Was it ever noted as such?

Why would it be harder to lift something with increased gravity that makes it heavier and pulls it downwards? 😐

Gee, I don't know.......

Originally posted by Arhael
Feat of holding ship together can't really be quantified.

As of the last one it doesn't say how he got the ship off Malahor. Would make sense that he either fixed engines or made someone to fix it. Without working ship and hyperspace he would not get off Malachor system.

Pretty sure it can be, it'd just be hard to do the maths. I'd guess at it being somewhere between "pretty hard" and "OH MY JESUS F*CKING CHRIST WHY ARE WE MOVING SO FAAAAAAAST????".

It says "hauled" genius. Other descriptions use the word "lifted" and "raised". Also Mandalore pretty much says flat out that the ship shouldn't be capable of functioning in the state it's in, to which Tobin replies that Nihilus is making it spaceworthy.

Yeah, it's pretty obvious that Nihilus is the one who lifted the ship and is holding it together.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Why would it be harder to lift something with increased gravity that makes it heavier and pulls it downwards? 😐

Gee, I don't know.......

I'm just saying, with all the things that Force Users can do with The Force, especially on a nexus, I don't see why heavy gravity would be much of an issue.

But /shrug

Whatever.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Other descriptions use the word "lifted" and "raised". Also Mandalore pretty much says flat out that the ship shouldn't be capable of functioning in the state it's in, to which Tobin replies that Nihilus is making it spaceworthy.

I always thought he just put it back together, lifted it and then didn't have to use the force to keep the ship functional.

How is this feat even possible? lol

Fool! Lord Nihilus is bound by no logic!

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Why would it be hard with The Force? Was it ever noted as such?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Yeah. Any time someone has found it difficult or impossible to lift something with the Force? That was because of gravity. 👆

/Shrug

Always seemed more like concentration rather than gravity.

Uh, no. Yoda may have said that size matters not but Jedi really can't lift whatever they want. Weight is a very limiting factor. That's why we judge power by the size and weight of objects someone can lift.

Also being crushed by gravity would make it harder to concentrate anyway tbh.

Never said that Jedi could lift whatever they want, that comes from how strong their connection is with The Force.

I'm just not sure weight is that big of a factor with a powerful force user, on a powerful force nexus.

But whatever, we'll just go with the gravity thing. I wasn't wanting to make a big deal on it really.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Fool! Lord Nihilus is bound by no logic!

Nihilus>Vitiate confirmed?

BioWare didn't write Nihilus. So no matter how vast, Nihilus will always have a limit. Vitiate can be as powerful as the number of subscriptions he'll inspire with explosions.

Originally posted by Nephthys
How, Legend?

Darth Nox draws power from multiple ghosts to fuel his own and have defeated extremely powerful opponents, easily felled a Jedi Strike Team as well. Heck, the sucker stood up to Emperor on Ziost.

No way, Nihilus can take on Nox.

Mark my words, Nox is the most powerful Force-user after Emperor in the galaxy. I have said this before.

And Nihilus has drained entire planets of the Force and nearly a hundred Jedi and more. His power is so immense he doesn't even perceive the galaxy the way mortals do anymore. His mere presence corrupts, kills and enslaves people. Like Nox, his power was so great it destroyed his own body, though at a more severe extent. His TK is practically unrivaled in the mythos.

Nox's only hope imo is the Force Walking ritual, since Nihilus is technically a spirit. But I doubt it'd work since Nihilus is bound to his armor already. And Nihilus is way too powerful.

Nihilus is the most powerful Force-user up to that point in history after the Emperor and arguably even greater than him.

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