Originally posted by leonidascrackers
i've read all of gaiman's novels and can tell you they are EXCELLENT. coraline was outstanding, as was american gods and anansi boys. i really enjoyed stardust and even the graveyard book was very very cool. i think gaiman is brilliant. ennis? meh, can give or take most of his stuff.
Kill yourself. Ennis rules.
Originally posted by Q99
Some of those on the list are great, some of 'em are merely ok (I mean, I like OWAW, but it's not exactly a classic. And the Public Enemies Superman story has some big holes, like 'why are so many heroes listening to Luthor just because Kryptonite showed up'😉, and then off that list are really trash, Ultimatum and all that.With consistency the question, 'puts out stories across the entire spectrum' is pretty much the opposite!
So are many of his weak ones.
Picking up a random Loeb story is really a roll of the dice.
Good one.
Also, even his misses tend to be of the 'haven't I seen this from Johns before....?' phoning it in rather than trainwrecks.
On the flipside, they've made so much stuff after that point.
Post-X-men, I find Claremont hit and miss but still putting out some good stuff, and I don't even remember the last time I read a good Byrne story.
Remember the time when Byrne had a Justice League story where the villains were crappy vampires, and the whole thing was just a backdoor launch for a crappy doom patrol reboot...?
Oh, of course. I know they've done some bad stuff. I'm looking at it more as them being people who have had steady, good periods of being consistently good, even if they had their shit later on.
Originally posted by krisblaze
He has no vision though, a lot of the dialogue is convoluted tripe, etc.We're moving into pure opinion here.
My point is that the OP specified someone who's consistently maintained a high level.
Loeb hasn't been consistent.
He was plenty consistent in DC. That counts, imo.
Originally posted by ODG
crackersKill yourself. Ennis rules.
ha! what do you think was his best effort? i liked preacher well enough and thor vikings was pretty cool. his style just doesn't always work for me.
another guy i like a lot of is giffen. i find some of his stuff funny as hell. his version of jla was great.
Originally posted by leonidas
ha! what do you think was his best effort? i liked preacher well enough and thor vikings was pretty cool. his style just doesn't always work for me.another guy i like a lot of is giffen. i find some of his stuff funny as hell. his version of jla was great.
Hitman is Ennis at his best. If you haven't read it, go and read it.
Ennis has both good points and problems. Like, when he does supers, he tends to make them so dumb and exaggerated, they don't really come off as a critique of anything, just his own exaggerated cartoonish view. Like in The Pro or The Boys.
Which is kinda sad, as in the rare occasions he does engage superheroes-as-superheroes rather than a cartoon version of them, it can be fantastic. And you know I'm talking about the Superman appearance in Hitman.
Ennis is better when he sticks to Punisher and Dredd types. Heck, that applies to a lot of the writers who aim for a 'gritty' style.
Originally posted by cdtm
Agreed, Bendis.Mark Millar, too. You could keep your Watchmen, Dark Knight Returns, and Sandman, because this is the real deal:
*Panel from Wanted*
I see sooo many people mock that panel 🙂 Basically it assumes the audience is reacting one way, and if they don't, it comes across as the writer being juvenile and failing at making a commentary on that kind of story too. It tries to be a jaw-dropper and it isn't. Or, at least for me it wasn't.
Though there is a nice edit of the end of Civil War with that dialog instead that fits scarily well ^^ And Millar reportedly signed a printed copy with the dialog replacement at a con once, which is cool.
ExistereAlso, Brian K Vaughan's self-contained stories (Y: The Last Man, Ex Machina, Saga) have all been favorites of mine, and his Runaways work is praised pretty consistently.
Apparently Pride of Baghdad is really good, though I personally haven't read it.
Pride is solid.
On Ex Machina, I felt it was 90% good, but the ending fell flat. The big threat seemed a lot less interesting than he'd built it up in my head, I didn't buy some of the character moments, and the last-page zinger was way too topical. Compared to the actually-willing-to-engage-on-modern-politics and the interesting take on powers and the creepy hintings of vol 1-9 of the series, it just didn't work- like the series grew while he was writing it and when the ending came he stuck with a version that hadn't grown with it.
That said, I luv me some Saga and Runaways.
Originally posted by leonidasPreacher.
ha! what do you think was his best effort? i liked preacher well enough and thor vikings was pretty cool. his style just doesn't always work for me.another guy i like a lot of is giffen. i find some of his stuff funny as hell. his version of jla was great.
His Punisher Max run is also great. His Hitman run is highly acclaimed. As is the Boys. Hellblazer. Midnighter.
Even his satirical efforts weren't bad. Especially if you were a fan of the character. He just reeks of consistency.