Originally posted by carver9Same pro dc side. Remember how crazy they went before final crisis and we saw Batman's human reflexes fast enough to hit him with a plot device before Seid could hit him. I debate based on what I see not interviews or based on hype prior to the comics.
I was thinking the same thing or probably low trans. He really hasn't beaten anyone outside of elite tier yet to my recollection but the hype he is getting is insane.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Same pro dc side. Remember how crazy they went before final crisis and we saw Batman's human reflexes fast enough to hit him with a plot device before Seid could hit him. I debate based on what I see not interviews or based on hype prior to the comics.
That wasn't true darkseid but his soul in a human body. Huge bit of context
Originally posted by abhilegend
He is destroying universes as shown in Constantine. Not hard to gauge by that level of power showing.
Surtur is also capable of destroying a universe.But I don't want to derail this thread or turn it into a Surtur Vs DCNU Darkseid.And besides, I didn't say DCNU Darkseid isn't powerful.I just can't gauge him correctly.