Hawkman vs Namor

This is a very close fight, Namor is a hell of an adversary but I feel Hawkman will climb through early adversity and take the victory. I am going to show off some key areas that I feel will Win Hawkman this fight.

First off is durability:

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Here is him tanking a hit from Wonder woman whom is possessed by pandoras box. Hawkman has also Tanked hits from Aquaman in the new 52 and Post crisis. I don't see Namor putting him down before he gets put down himself. Hawkmans healing factor and overall durability will play a large part in him staying in this fight and winning.

Speed:

Namor has not done too much in the way of speed, he has dodged an attack at over the speed of sound once but that is a really old feat. Namor did blitz wolverine before but Logan was not expecting it, still impressive yet I feel Hawkman still outclasses him in this area. Hawkman has a far larger array of speed feats than Namor and better feats as well.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-37-02.jpg
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Above are multiple scans of him dodging gun fire, it also shows just how reactive his wings are and superior flight will play a part in this battle as well.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Identity_Crisis_02_Page_04.jpg

Hawkman's sight and reactions are so keen he can see wally west vibrating so fast he is invisible to everyone elses eyes.

Hawkman has done much more such as Dodging sniper bullets and more impressively fighting Lobo whom has shown to be on par with Supergirl in speed.

Strength/weaponry

I feel that Hawkman can finish Namor off, whether it be a mace of a cutting weapon Nth metal will prevail.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hawkmanv217-04ocdhorus.jpg

Strong enough to lift up a solid steel radio tower.

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Here he hurts Wonder Woman bare handed.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/JLA70_VirtueVice.jpg

^knocks team busting desperos tooth out.

Fights:

I am not going to post any full fights but I will site a few, some key fights that I feel help secure the win are his fight againt Black Adam and Johnny quick. Black adam outclassed him in the end but Hawkman was able to stay in the fight, land some hits and tank some from teth. Hawkman was still standing after the encounter. Hawkman fought Johnny quick whom is a flash lvl speedster, they fought in pre crisis but the fight was also talked referenced in post crisis. Hawkman was able to land hits on the speedster and I feel this helps to show the speed advantage hawkman has over namor.

In the end it will be grit, equipment and speed that seal the deal for Hawkman. I don't see Namor putting him down.

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Can't tell if serious. Those fts sucks.

I don't see anything you brought up as too problematic for HM, Namor did fight ares, wonder man and ms marvel but it was individually, they did not come at him all at once. Sure he fought classic Hulk but at the time everyone was fighting everyone, Namor fought spiderman in classic days. Namor is very inconsistent, he more recently has been beaten by the Thing(I do not agree with the showing) been made to bleed by Luke Cage and been knocked on his rear end by Superior Spiderman.

I don't see Namor finishing the fight, Carter is too relentless.

ALSO Wonder man beat Namor before, if I recall correctly Namor was distracted by someone before he got knocked out BUT Namor commented on Wonder man being superior before he lost the fight in a sketchy way.

Just saying Namor can't actually handle Wonder man, Ms Marvel and Ares at the same time.

Some of the feats are lackluster I will admit but most of them are pretty good feats. Holding your own in a fight with Black Adam sucks? Hurting Wonder woman and knocking out a team busters teeth suck?

Tanking a hit from a bloodlusted Wonder Woman who makes kryptonians bleed sucks?

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman12-22.jpg

Slamming a huge dragon

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman11P18.jpg

Lifting a large dinosaur

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-33-07.jpg
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Catching a car thrown across the city by grundy.

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Here is him hurting magog^

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Above is a fight with Black adam, Hawkman is able to fight at the speed of teth and tanks multiple hits along with dishing some of his own. It is impressive, Hawkman does not win by any means but he stays in the fight for a while and when it is over he is left standing.

Happy? More impressive strength/striking/fighting feats.

Now how does namor win? Besides the false "stalemates"?

I will post in a min.

Pew!

Theoretically he should still have access to pre-52 weapons

Its KM, I have been using scans from your respect thread btw(except for new 52) great thread with a lot of great feats in the same place!

Been trying to use non tech feats as to not get into the standard equipment argument....

Been arguing basically mace and Nth, kind of new 52 equipment...

My respect thread is very outdated. I didn't include half of the pre-52 feats. Lots I missed,as when I was doing it photobucket became awful so gave up

It is a good thread and has enough to prove superiority over fish sticks. I have not even started on new 52 feats yet.

Originally posted by carver9
Not Voided but didn't Void had some type of control over him? Wasn't your standard Bob.

The Void didn't have control over him in the whole Utopia arc in any way.

I think what you're getting at is the serum Robert was fed was to make it easier for the Void to emerge. Robert wasn't controlled by the Void though at all. It's just means that Robert was weaker mentally so the Void din't have as hard a time to take over Robert. As we seeing SIEGE the Void could maintain himself to an extent but nor fully as Robert still held some control over himself. Plus as we know when it is the Void as he/it speaks in black speech bubbles.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
The Void didn't have control over him in the whole Utopia arc in any way.

I think what you're getting at is the serum Robert was fed was to make it easier for the Void to emerge. Robert wasn't controlled by the Void though at all. It's just means that Robert was weaker mentally so the Void din't have as hard a time to take over Robert. As we seeing SIEGE the Void could maintain himself to an extent but nor fully as Robert still held some control over himself. Plus as we know when it is the Void as he/it speaks in black speech bubbles.

Confused by this post but you said Void had 'some' control. That's all I needed to know.

Originally posted by IronMikeTython
It is a good thread and has enough to prove superiority over fish sticks. I have not even started on new 52 feats yet.

Have not forgot about you. On a work call. Will post fts in a min.

Originally posted by carver9
Confused by this post but you said Void had 'some' control. That's all I needed to know.

Well you haven't understood my point then as my comment about Void having control wasn't talking about Utopia.

When Sentry speaks in White speech bubbles it's Sentry, when Black speech bubbles appear it is the Void. If you know the Sentry you know that he is scared of unleashing too much power because of the Void.

And if you read Sentry's newer runs you would know that Osborne intentionally gave him a serum that weakened his hold that he had over the Void. So that if the Void wanted to take over his body and use it for nefarious purposes (or Osborne's) then it would be so.

I don't know why you're misconstruing my points.

You shouldn't say "This post confuses me me" but then pick a part that fits with your vein of thought as that shows you're contradicting yourself.

If you need clarification ask me about what I meant but don't say it tells you all you need to know if you don't even understand my post to start with.

Sigh

I have a feeling he loves picking and choosing and even making up things that fit his view. Namor "stalemated" sentry, LOL! He also said I only stated two feats when I stated many before I even put out scans.

Originally posted by IronMikeTython
I have a feeling he loves picking and choosing and even making up things that fit his view. Namor "stalemated" sentry, LOL! He also said I only stated two feats when I stated many before I even put out scans.

Go back and read my posts and I said the fts you mentioned sucked for Hawkman.